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[Blood-Pigggy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Burger Meister @ Jul 6 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]298283[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blood-Pigggy @ Jul 6 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]298261[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Burger Meister @ Jul 6 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]298232[/snapback]

You have to remove pc from the options because the PC is not a console, it's a whole different ball game. How do people think the ps3 outranks the pc and the 360. and the wii, well no thanks... had one of those, but I traded it for a 360 which rocks. I voted PC here because it's an option and pc will always be the best "system".

@Iowa: The wii is not cheap at all. The console may be cheap but look at this.
Wii Console - $350
Wii Remote - $45
Wii Nunchuck - $20
Wii Games - $20-60 (Rip off because most wii games are ports of gc and or ps2 games)
Hi-Def Cables - $40-50 (Comes in 360 and ps3 bundles)

Grand Total: $505 (For Wii, suitable for 2 players, 1 game and hi-def cables)

Xbox 360 Premium - $450
Xbox 360 Wired Controller - $45
Xbox 360 Games - $9-60 (have seen xbox 360 games for 9 dollars, but wii cheapest is $19.99)
Xbox 360 Hi-Def - $0 (Already included)

Grand Total: $545 (For 360, suitable for 2 players, 1 game, hi-def cables)

it's 40 dollars more and is more valuable and fun (Wii is very boring unless you have 4 people constantly wanting to play)
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Wrong, the Wii for me cost much less, you get everything you need in the initial package.

I paid $250 for the Wii, then $50 for a game, that's all, from that point on I had two Wii controllers (a whole set) a classic controller, and old Gamecube controllers from my GC.

As for the games being ripoffs, hardly, and the argument that they're "last gen games" is totally BS to anyone that actually owns a Wii.
I don't care either way, but when you just speak untruthful things about a console it's dumb.
Also the X-Box Premium already has Wavebird wireless controllers packed in.
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I bought a Wii in North America at walmart, the grand total for the system itself with wii sports 1, controller set and such was around $350.

I did own a wii, and I still agree the games were last gen. Godfather, oh no you have a few more levels, but look the draw distance was even lower than it was on PS2 and the motion sensing was sub par.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blood-Pigggy @ Jul 7 2007, 12:54 AM) [snapback]298271[/snapback]</div>

All in all, if you want to be realistic, remove one vote and knock it up for the 360, the 360 is definitely and realistically the best competitor, and that's being unbiased, it's going the same as the PS2 did last generation.
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I voted for 360, I now own one. I traded my wii for a 360 (poor guy I traded it to, he has probably sold the wii by now). The 360 is probably the best out of all three next-gen consoles. It has best controller, pretty good games and the price is in the middle. It's not cheap, but you can still afford it.
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Personally I wouldn't "trade" the Wii for anything, it's a better system than the 360 when it comes to service and variety, I rather get bored by shooters a lot more now than I did a few years ago, I played Far Cry Instincts on the 360 for ten minutes and decided to return it (it was rented) that goes a long with Call of Duties, Prey, Perfect Dark Zero, the Halos, and Gears of War.

I'm just not into those generic shooters anymore, and frankly the 360 is %50 those games, I usually check out a good other genre game on the 360 (ie Overlord or Battle For Middle Earth 2) and the Wii is my primary play console.

I doubt you can say it has "the best controller" because quite frankly the Wii deserves that credit just because of its innovation and how well that was executed, the 360 controller ties with the PS3 one because that's just a PS2 controller basically and that was hands down the best controller of the last generation, the new 360 controller still has awkward black and white buttons, and the analog sticks are tacky to move.

[Burger Meister]

So farcry was better on the Wii??? Hahahahah don't make me laugh too much. 50% shooters, nah... look at the game lists for the 360. I'll admit there are a lot of shooters on the 360, but those games are great anyways. Wii has an innovative controller... how about the worst controller design. The control is too lengthy and it is unbalanced. My friends and I played wario ware for 2 hours and our wrists started to hurt like crazy. That doesn't happen on any other console. Akward black and white buttons, you mean the two bumpers right by the triggers... how are those akward? Analog sticks are tacky to move? Could you elaborate on this one?

[Blood-Pigggy]

My wrist doesn't hurt at all, and I played and finished Twilight Princess in one day, that's around 18 hours, you were using the controller too briskly.

That's actually the beauty of the design, calling it horrible is the opposite of what it really is. If you want to have fun with your friends playing Wii Sports and just go crazy with the controllers, it still works well, but even if you make slight movements it registers perfectly.
Also, I said that the X-Box 360 is mostly shooters, and it is, look at the library, almost everything is shooters, in fact, I believe it's even more than %50.

I didn't state that the Wii had better shooters, I stated that the Wii has something other than shooters, read it properly, it's a good thing, the PS3 is doing it as well, consoles are being plugged up by crap shooters, even Bioshock turned into a generic gunfighter when they decided to strip the RPG elements.

I didn't mean the bumpers, but now that you mention it, they are bothersome to reach in a fight. The analogs I meant are big and gaudy, when you move them, it's hard to gauge how well it will react according to the sensitivity in the game, which even worse when you consider that most of the games are shooters, once again.
The past big titles are on the 360 are mostly all shooters then one or two RPGs or Racing games, hell, even Oblivion was a hack and slash title, basically a shooter with swords.

Gears of War, GRAW, Rainbow Six Vegas, The Darkness, Call of Duty, FEAR, Lost Planet, Crackdown, Battlestatios Midway, Call of Jaurez, Earth Defense Force, hell even most of the X-Box Live games are a bunch of shooters, or variations thereof, like space scrollers or Contra.

[Iowa]

I played and finished Twilight Princess in one day, that's around 18 hours[/b]

You played TP for 18 hours straight :blink: ...God, now I see how you have so many posts: you have way more spare time than I do!

[Blood-Pigggy]

No, it was during a field trip in New York, I brought it along and good thing too, the teachers got all paranoid and we were forced into our hotel rooms for a whole day, I had brought my Wii and we played in the room for the whole day, we finished it too.

[punch999]

I have a wii and for some reason I can't get into twighlight princess. Is there a point it actually get's good?

[JJXB]

i'm a 360 fan. the PS3 is an overpriced brick with not enough games to justify the price. the wii has unimaginitive games that mostly appeal to more than one player (it's unimaginitive since most of the games are ports or party games). the 360 has the right balance between price, playability and games in my opinion (it's not like the ps3 or wii have dead rising, is it?)

[Iowa]

I have a wii and for some reason I can't get into twighlight princess. Is there a point it actually get's good?[/b]

Yes, right after the one-hour tutorial section of the game right on up through the end cutscene.

[Blood-Pigggy]

The way to get into TP is to stop being retarded and play the game it was meant to be, meaning don't go through it as a linear action adventure game, explore everything as you go, it makes it way more excited.

I don't understand how people can play any other way, it's the reason why games like Beyond Good & Evil are good, there's so much to see beyond what you're meant to do.

[punch999]

Ok I haven't gotten to anypart where I can play it as a non linear game.