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[Smiling Spectre]

Originally Posted by twillight

What the hell are you babbling about? Your refutal is NONSENSE, and your lack of defending your own position and mark (as consequence) a film as "good" for "not being bad" is just DISTURBING.

Let's stop it. I don't like your attitude, your CAPITAL WORDS and your obviously biased attitude against SW7. I don't want to make adequately hate speech, and have no will to counter your every argument, even if I don't think that most of it valid at all. I can answer your "deus ex" replies, just as experiment, but I can predict outcome anyway.

#1 Luke is gone without explanation,so we don't have like a jedi-army.

Umm... Explanation "Ren betrayed him, and this broke Luke's will to fight" is not good enough for you?

#2 The First Order appears out of nowhere. No idea why The New Republic allowed this.

Yeah, after fall of Empire it was totally unexpected that forces of evil will not disappear with it. What a strange and unique situation!

#3 despite searching the pendrive with flamethrowers no harm done.

Yeah, they searched for the pendrive all this time, right. And consequent interrogation was only routine torture because of inherent evilness of Ren.

#4 Scavanger-girl does not sell the robot
#5 Scavanger-girl helps the robot

Umm... When you next time will find unique artifact of the unknown value, you'll sell it in the closest pawnshop for the first price offered, I am sure. Especially if price will be suspiciously high for the worthless piece of junk.

#6 the Falcon is there!

Ex Machina moment, right. Totally not like in ep4 where it was Solo along with Falcon, no.

#7 Rey is a pilot!

Umm, I don't think that there is much harder than car driving after all. Not Han-level driving, of course, but, come on, ship is quite standard, and girl is dreamt of old machinery and tech-savvy too.

#8 Han accidentally stumbles into theFalcon!
#9 Han's associates accidentally stumbles into Han!

I believe, there wasn't "accidentally" here. Han personally told that he detected Falcon. Associates followed the same trail, obviously.

#10 Han and Chewie can breath cyanide!

There wasn't cyanide. Rey _expected_ cyanide leak, but it didn't happen - otherwise you must admit that Rey and Finn breath cyanide too - they removed masks as soon as seen Han.

#11 Otygh don't eat Finn like did with everyone else!

Otyugh already eaten several people, so he could be fed. Or wounded. He is not invulnerable, only very dangerous after all.

#12 we had the plan for the 3rd DS the entire time!

Ummm... Computer model of big sphere with vague external features now is "plan for DS"? Cool idea.

#13 3rd DS has the EXACT same vulnerability as the previous (previous two) DS!

Yeah, energy cannon #3 with planetary level explosives have counter-explosion measures, just as previous two cannons. And explode after destroying it, just as they. Surprise. If you'll make energy cannon yourself, make sure that it'll have non-explosive ammo!

#14 we spot the weak point in the plans in 2 seconds!

Aha. And by "we" we means "Finn" who lived there 20+ years.

#15 eight X-wing is enough to fight an entire planet of army!

Umm, where you got this "entire planet army"? There was forests and rivers, not barracks and hangars as far as I seen.

#18 earthquake!

Pure EM moment, right.

#19 Rebel Pilot was NOT in the tie-fighter!

Actually, I was much more surprised that gunner had parachute, and pilot is not. In reality pilot evacuates, and I see nothing too incredible in it.

#20 we had the lightsabre the entire time!

So what?

#21 Finn comes back instead of leaving!

I told you my point of view.

#22 R2D2 comes alive at the critical moment

This is not explained, but not necessary unexplainable. It could have some trigger, or receive some info. Like Luke's map. Because it's not clear where he got it.

#23 Rey knows The Force better then a trained sith

Umm, really? Where?

This DS was 10 times bigger then the previous versions, and made for a ~country much smaller.

Umm, actually, it's not DS ten times bigger. It's "shell" ten times bigger. "DS" embedded inside planet, not build to that size.

So that means it had that more soldiers on it, from a much less population. It was so hugh and expensive, and Wunderwaffe it had to store like 90% of the FO's army.

Wrong conclusion. Actually, based on given info, they had garrison of specially-bred soldiers, several tie-fighters for defence... and that's mostly all. Maybe Order hadn't more near. Maybe they feels it unnecessary. Maybe they didn't want to draw unwanted attention. Or maybe it was expendable project right from the start. It's not obvious at all.

And when it blows up we see who leaves the explosion: 3 X-fighter and the Falcon. That's it. No FO-ship. everyone there got dead, and there's no more soldiers as substitute. FO is destroyed by that one explosion.

See above. As for me, it's destruction of two FO projects in one: Starkiller and special soldiers (and even second can be only one site from several), that's all. Snoke even didn't lose his precious wanna-be-sith in result

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[twillight]

Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre

Let's stop it. I don't like your attitude, your CAPITAL WORDS and your obviously biased attitude against SW7. I don't want to make adequately hate speech, and have no will to counter your every argument, even if I don't think that most of it valid at all. I can answer your "deus ex" replies, just as experiment, but I can predict outcome anyway.

If you want to "stop", and "don't want to make a hate-speech", then why you DO it anyway? I don't like being threatened for a WELL-REASONED opinion just because you're a moderator and I'm not. I don't like your attitude either.



1) No, it isn't. Not after what he did in Empire Strikes Back.

2) You are shown totally biased when strawmaning one half of the sentence instead of reading it full.

3) You're avoiding the subject, so I'm avoiding you.

4) Uhm, when you live on quarter-rations and you're suddenly offered 1,000,000 $$$, and no other buyer in your vicinity - yes, you DO sell your stuff.

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Why bother talking to you? You don't have an opinion, you don't offer a perspective, you are simply stating something and want others to follow it zealously, building an apology around which is as transparent as glass, and you're best reach would be "it is not bad so it's good" anyway which is just totally ridiculous.
"Not bad" is just "not bad", "ok", or "oh well, it's passing", and NOT good.
Not that Swii would be good in any sense...