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[yoga]

Originally Posted by Sacred_Path

Nah, I'm just playing this game a lot

Also if a combat threatens to go badly I run away and reload. That's not a very good playstyle , but it saves time and I need to get to know the game more.

However, the mines seem like a place where I'll be spending more time. My mapping tool, GridMapper, is ok but it doesn't allow to make notes on the map. So I don't really know where all these stairs lead.



I can't answer as that because I haven't played W7 yet. I know kmonster didn't like 7 at all , I've only read the manual and looked at some information around the net. I think I'll like W7 because, for example, changing classes forever probably isn't a good tactic there because max level is 100 and you need to focus on getting there with one class. Also having an open world sounds fun.



I can only tell you what I've read on the net; every character can transfer ONE item worth more than 1000 gold, and a lot of items worth less than 1000. So give each character ONE item that's really valuable and good for them. Some items won't transfer at all but you'll have to check the net for specifics.

possibly

Ha ha ha,

Yes, our good friend Kmonster aka the Wizard was very tired when He finished the game Wiz 7.
I remembered he said tired: Ah, i pass it!
..He was so wounded and tired that he stopped the AB activities and visit Alps to rest and recover. I like and respect Kmonster because there is no question he does not antwortet..
To be fair i have to note that AB site is a friendly site (with very little exceptions).

Hmm. You know the game und hast good Map program. OK.
Pls, pls i need asap the answer of the next Frage:
- Is some exit from Mine 1 to Mine 2 directly or i have to go to the surface and find this Mine 2?
My great thanks for You prompt answer.

Location: Before Wizard mine.
Condition: All men 8 level. Nur BRAVE is 9. EXP 135 K.

I need some Smitty to upgrade my armor and weaponry.


In Bulgaria and Germany is about 24 O'clock.

so goto bed...

[Sacred_Path]

Originally Posted by yoga

I like and respect Kmonster because there is no question he does not antwortet..

true, he's a hoard of information

Hmm. You know the game und hast good Map program. OK.
Pls, pls i need asap the answer of the next Frage:
- Is some exit from Mine 1 to Mine 2 directly or i have to go to the surface and find this Mine 2?

I really have no idea, I just started the mines and like I said I'm having some trouble mapping stuff. I have to do it by hand of course, I just didn't take graph paper because I find stuff is either hard to read when you draw it tiny or stuff takes too much space if you draw it big.

I need some Smitty to upgrade my armor and weaponry.

no shit, I just browsed and identified Smitty's entire inventory . That was a piece of work.

BTW I think I remember the small, bearded shopkeeper in Wizards&Warriors was called Smitty too.

In Bulgaria and Germany is about 24 O'clock.

so goto bed...

1 hour to go!

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by yoga

..Dear Kmonster, i tried to fulfill Your direction and up BRAVE'S Speed and Dex from 10 to 11 and start as Valkyrie, but no result. The game did all changes auto.

Yes, the game does automatic stat changes at level up. So if you want to enforce getting a certain stat raise you have to do the following:

When the Brave is close to 128,000 XP save before every battle. If you win and get the level up without SPD raised to 11 reload and redo the battle until you win and get SPD raised to 11.
You can go to a location with fast and easy battles for this.

When you get SPD raised to 11 at level up put all skill points into scouting and immediately after leveling up change your class: At the character screen select EDIT and then CHANGE PROFESSION and pick VALKYRIE.
You'll drop down to level 1 but you'll level up fast afterwards. Put all skill points into theology for casting spells.

.. Will i need more the next keys?
Iron - 6 pcs
Cooper - 12
Chrome - 3
Key&Spades
Dungeon

I want to drop all non usable ones.
Danke.

You cannot drop keys. The copper keys are for opening doors in case you jammed them in the starting level, the iron keys are for opening jammed doors one level lower and the chrome keys for doors at the upper level. They are probably useless now but you can't drop them.
The other 2 keys are not random drops and are needed for doors you'll have to open later in the game. You can sell the giant sledge, it's too big to be used effectively.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by kmonster

Yes, the game does automatic stat changes at level up. So if you want to enforce getting a certain stat raise you have to do the following:

When the Brave is close to 128,000 XP save before every battle. If you win and get the level up without SPD raised to 11 reload and redo the battle until you win and get SPD raised to 11.
You can go to a location with fast and easy battles for this.

When you get SPD raised to 11 at level up put all skill points into scouting and immediately after leveling up change your class: At the character screen select EDIT and then CHANGE PROFESSION and pick VALKYRIE.
You'll drop down to level 1 but you'll level up fast afterwards. Put all skill points into theology for casting spells.

You cannot drop keys. The copper keys are for opening doors in case you jammed them in the starting level, the iron keys are for opening jammed doors one level lower and the chrome keys for doors at the upper level. They are probably useless now but you can't drop them.
The other 2 keys are not random drops and are needed for doors you'll have to open later in the game. You can sell the giant sledge, it's too big to be used effectively.

Guten Morgen, alle!

Rats!
He reached the level 9 already!!!
I have not re Load option.
Zum Teufel!!
Is it possible to do Your instructions when reach the next level 256 K?

[yoga]

Originally Posted by yoga

Guten Morgen, alle!

Rats!
He reached the level 9 already!!!
I have not re Load option.
Zum Teufel!!
Is it possible to do Your instructions when BRAVE reach the next level 256 K?

I am going crazy with these MINES' maps!
I have to enter Mines 2.
Even maps of Clouds of Xeen were easier.

[yoga]

OK
I will try to beat these Toll Trolls at their bridge.
The battle is terrible. Still i am losing side, still..
They ask me to pay 5 K GP.
No.

Dear all,
You beat these Trolls or bypass?
Spacibo!!

[Sacred_Path]

Ok gize I think I'm gonna use Snafaru's maps to get through the mines, and after that I'll draw on graph paper again. GridMapper just doesn't cut it.

I've tried to kill the Toll Troll with my level 8 peeps too, no luck yet. Sucker is immune to Charm, Web, Poison, Energy Blast, Sleep and Terror and that's basically all I have offensively (ya I know, bad first time player ).

On a related note, I think it's a bad design decision to put in giants as low/ mid level enemies. Kinda un-epic. I blind them then hack them to bits.

Oh a question, the manual advertises that there's aging in the game, is that true? Apparently Wiz7 has a candle that represents your lifetime. I'm resting A LOT right now, and it's only going to get worse (bad mana regeneration on two of my three casters).

[yoga]

Originally Posted by yoga

OK
I will try to beat these Toll Trolls at their bridge.
The battle is terrible. Still i am losing side, still..
They ask me to pay 5 K GP.
No.

Dear all,
You beat these Trolls or bypass?
Spacibo!!

Pipe plays signal:
Retreat!
End of stupid venture!
ha ha ha

these Toll Trolls have 230 HP. They are 2 trolls. Plus Dwarfs + Giants. Ok. Let calculate HP of both opps.
Brave team:
SCATTY 49
TWILL 59
KMONST 44
BRAVE 93
CAPO 43
PACO 63
----------------
Total 350 HP + 10 for human mind = 360 HP

Trolls team:
Toll troll 2 x 230 = 460
Miner Giant 3 x 65 = 200
Miner Dwarfs 5 x 20 = 100
-------------------------
Total 760 HP

Well
brave 360 versus 760 Trolls

Again non fair game!
I remember a scene of Clouds of Xeen when the humble but brave yoga entered carelessly the lava section to be attacked by 8-10 Fire monsters!
Gladly i was near to escape point so the monsters saw the dust only after me.
Here the Run procedure is not easy.

I want so much to clear one point: Well, me or my companion Gnadige Sacred_Path press option Run and game locates us to save point. We rest and ready to fight.
I am interesting when my team and opps battle again, is the opps rest also und have full HP or not?/
One kaltes Bier fur Hilfe.

Do YOU drink bier, Master?
If Yes what label?
I like Heineken.

Prost!!

[Sacred_Path]

Good analysis yoga, although I hit much more often than enemies do (on level 8) so I think the difference in HP aren't the biggest problem. The problem for me is that my damage output isn't high when he resists all my spells. I usually get the Toll Troll alone btw, only once he had 3 giants with him. Are you playing on Expert difficulty or something?

BTW I think this area is a bit heavy on the pun side. Key of A-Miner, Miner Dwarf/ Major Dwarf, Toll Troll? Seriously. That doesn't really make up for the fact that this area seems less well-designed than the castle, it doesn't have any flavor.

I'm still running around like a beheaded chicken, maybe I should start drawing my own maps

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by yoga

Rats!
He reached the level 9 already!!!
I have not re Load option.
Zum Teufel!!
Is it possible to do Your instructions when reach the next level 256 K?

Yes, it's still possible. But if you're too lazy you can stay a fighter, it's not too bad, your decision.

Giants are usually vulnerable to blinding and have trouble hitting what they cannot see.

There's no aging in W6.