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[DarthHelmet86]

I have about 0 care that they have gone down. It seems that they have done and dealt in some highly dodgy things and didn't do anything to protect themselves. Leasing servers in the US was just about as dumb as you can get.

And going berserk and DoSing everything is not going to help us at all.

[GTX2GvO]

Isn't it so that a few of the ISO cellar uploads were uploaded there?

Those will be gone now for sure.

[Lulu_Jane]

We will have to check. The links should be removed even if they are dead I think.

[Doink]

Originally Posted by DarthHelmet86

I have about 0 care that they have gone down. It seems that they have done and dealt in some highly dodgy things and didn't do anything to protect themselves. Leasing servers in the US was just about as dumb as you can get.

And going berserk and DoSing everything is not going to help us at all.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I was Protestant.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Martin Niemöller

[DarthHelmet86]

Yeah that is great, cause that is totally the same.

From the actual documents it would seem the owners of the site have committed crimes, not just hosting pirated content. If you don't like the law then go protest that, don't make this into something it isn't. SOPA and PIPA are something to be worried about, a website who's owners actually seemed to be making money of piracy is not.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Originally Posted by DarthHelmet86

Yeah that is great, cause that is totally the same.

From the actual documents it would seem the owners of the site have committed crimes, not just hosting pirated content. If you don't like the law then go protest that, don't make this into something it isn't. SOPA and PIPA are something to be worried about, a website who's owners actually seemed to be making money of piracy is not.

We still have to see what they will be declared guilty of. Some of the charges - eg "not identifying and removing EVERY other upload of the same infriging material as in the given link from their servers" - could cause very inconvenient precedence to be established for similar cases in the future.

[Lulu_Jane]

Doink, did you seriously just compare closing down a blatant warez site with the holocaust, because that's pretty amazing.

[Doink]

Originally Posted by Lulu_Jane

Doink, did you seriously just compare closing down a blatant warez site with the holocaust, because that's pretty amazing.

I am in no way comparing this to any past event.
Its just a simple quote that illustrates a very common situation where people do not take action until they are directly affected.

quote from some forum in the future:

"That Abandonia site blatantly offered copyrighted games they deserved to be shut down"

[DarthHelmet86]

From what I understand from reading it Fifth it wasn't so much that they weren't hunting down each file that was the same, but rather that they knew they had the same files and were talking about them and even suggesting how they could make more money of them now. They have talked about it being in Bad Faith, i.e. they shouldn't have to search everything on their servers, but if they do know of identical copies they should be removing them not talking about they can use them to make more money. I don't know if the law allows that to considered a violation of the Safe Haven laws.

Paying people who uploaded pirated material is a huge no no, copying files is all well and good but when you are making money of other peoples work like that it is a while different beast.

[TotalAnarchy]

From the little I've read in the indictment, there are a lot of loopholes to be exploited in that text. I don't think those guys will get many years of jail, if any at all.