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[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Strobe@Dec 15 2004, 10:22 PM

could you please list some other differences between those two games so
that i can get a better impression of daggerfall?

The differences are quite big.
All quests in morrowind were pre-scripted while the daggerfall quests were randomly generated... that isn't exactly a bad thing because some quests are quite entertaining and most generated quests are as good as the pre-scripted morrowind quests (which is good for daggerfall, but rather bad for morrowind)

The graphics in Morrowind are ofcoarse way better than those in daggerfall. Daggerfall has many many more cities and towns but they, too, are randomly generated (except for important locations in cities like palaces)
Unlike Arena (the first elderscrolls game) there is nothing outside the city walls.
Which is kind of strange I think, but its true.
Once outside a city its all just a huge plane with a texture and 'craters' in it.
Outside of dungeons these planes will have some vegetation on it.

So you can't walk from one city to another... You can buy a horse but you can only use it inside cities. As a lot of cities are huge this can come in quite handy.

Like quests and cities the dungeons, too, are generated. That is to say all dungeons that aren't related to the mainquest.
So far the dungeons are okay and are about as good as the dungeons in morrowind.
While generated they don't feel like just a maze (like in Arena) some dungeons do look like a crypt or an underground cavern while others are really strange (almost M.C. Escher like)

There are millions of NPC's but none of them have anything really interesting to say. You can ask them about rumours or work... or jsut ask them where the nearest temple is.

Now there is one point worth mentioning since its the cause of quite a few threads in the TES IV: oblivion forum... nudity.
Daggerfall contained some nudity, but never full body. For example, there is a temple devoted to the goddess Dibella. Inside her temple you'll find scantly clothed woemn revealing a some of her parts. And in some inns (mostly in the more exotic cities) you'll find nude women in your room (but still never all-revealing and you can't do anything with them)
Your own character did have nudity I believe... however for male characters this meant not wearing any underwear... just some doll like features (other words: nothing)
Now Morrowind was free from nudity, they gave all women a brown diaper (as its called in the forum) and brown bra.
Now quite a few people are pleading for the return of Daggerfall's slight nudity while others protest against it.

All in all Daggerfall is very different from Morrowind. Yes it is bigger, but due to the fact that almost all cities and towns look alike and there isn't really any countryside to explore this huge enviroment isn't that amazing.

I do think that Daggerfall has a slightly more interesting mainquest than Morrowind's (if youa re into political intrigue rather than religious prophesies)

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Nudity is not needed. :not_ok:

[Strobe]

ok, now i've got a pretty good picture of daggerfall in comparison to morrowind.
thanks, stroggy, for your detailed description!

i think the fact, daggerfall is lacking a "real" countryside would be a big minus to me
because i love morrowind's borderless experience of nature, cities and dungeons
merging together, so to speak.

but the scripted sub-quests sound like quite an interesting feature, though.

anyway, my friend can't find his daggerwind anymore...i asked him about selling it to
me. it's a pity for i was really interested in having a look myself...

but at least i can play morrowind which appears a bit more of my taste than daggerfall
does, to be honest.

[evilded]

Daggerfall is the one game where I've often found myself more intrested in trivial things than in the real quest LOL .

If anyone can name a game that has greater replay value, please tell me...

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by evilded@Dec 17 2004, 08:26 AM

If anyone can name a game that has greater replay value, please tell me...

I don't know... but I'll bet you'll get a whole bunch of answers on the site of 'the sims' k:

[evilded]

Bah, I think the sims is the lowest point in human activity. Why don't we all just hook up our bodies to a supercomuter and give up on physical life altogether? Let's all just live in a virtual world, with virtual sex and virtual food and virtual pets and virtual jobs?

I cannot STAND The Sims. And do not understand how anyone can...

But thats just me, and I could be wrong...

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by evilded@Dec 17 2004, 10:33 AM

But thats just me, and I could be wrong...

Oh... I don't know
How many people play the sims?

[evilded]

Lots im sure. But I don't care...


We are way anyway LOL

[Jenny]

The Sims is unique and a great game. It's very popular too if I'm not mistaken (especially the sims 2)

And I didn't play Sims 1 and 2 and I think I won't play them too...
But let's stay on topic, people.