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[yoga]

Originally Posted by Scatty

Well, actually I just thought I'd help out a bit but I'm late - you already managed to solve it Congratulations Yoga. You're too kind but all I did was quote from a walkthrough by someone else.

For a record, so it might help someone else with this Bean puzzle, it's simple once you know what to do. You just have to start in one of the four rooms with the urn, doesn't matter which - you decide. Save the game before start putting the beans into the urns, and note on a piece of paper, or in a text file, in which of the four rooms you put which bean.
When you put all four in, enter the middle room and pull to see what you've got. If you don't get BBBB load the savegame and put the beans in a different order, comparing the change with the previous order you wrote down. After that compare the result in the middle room and see what changed. Trial and error is the method here, so it can't be really told how to do it, since it's random for each savegame.

Abs. true.
This is the correct method: Trial and Error.
Hmmm.. i did a map, then i located the chalices, then i start trials... carefully recording all my steps... and ...voilaaaaa...suddenly the floor remains the same, not opens and happy yog understand that all is OK..yes, You will see four words Black..
That is..
It is always with the puzzles. In the beginning i am in the dark room, all is upside-down, but after a while one begin to see more and more, the fog is out and our brain says: This is the way..
Patience.
..one of my vices is (i am Gemini) that sometime i am impatient...starving to do next step..But hurrying leads to ...... fail..
....
Now i have to find and kill Rodan from New city.
So back to New city.
Hmmm.. i begin to like the game...

[Scatty]

Originally Posted by yoga

..one of my vices is (i am Gemini) that sometime i am impatient...starving to do next step..But hurrying leads to ...... fail..

Don't worry, you're not the only one like that Self-discipline is the key.

Btw., I doubt Rodan Lewarx will stay in New City, unless you used the Locate Person spell and it told you he's there. Even if he is, once you reach New City he might have moved off already, so you should cast that spell once you're in the city (I think you can buy a scroll, if you can't cast it, from Belcanzor, he's open only during night time). Tracking NPCs can be a hassle in the game, since it's not guaranteed you'll meet one where he supposedly is located.
Chances are higher, though, if you have one or more map pieces with your party (only they interest other NPCs). The more, the more eager NPCs will look out for you. If you have no map pieces with you at all, then NPCs have little interest in meeting you, so the chances to meet them are much more random.

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by Scatty

For a record, so it might help someone else with this Bean puzzle, it's simple once you know what to do. You just have to start in one of the four rooms with the urn, doesn't matter which - you decide. Save the game before start putting the beans into the urns, and note on a piece of paper, or in a text file, in which of the four rooms you put which bean.
When you put all four in, enter the middle room and pull to see what you've got. If you don't get BBBB load the savegame and put the beans in a different order, comparing the change with the previous order you wrote down. After that compare the result in the middle room and see what changed. Trial and error is the method here, so it can't be really told how to do it, since it's random for each savegame.

You have to fail and fall down once before you can use the save trick. The solution is set after you try for the first time and the combination never correct at the first attempt.

[yoga]

Btw., I doubt Rodan Lewarx will stay in New City, unless you used the Locate Person spell

Locate Person spell?
First time i hear.
OK.
But i continued and...

The victorious army of brave just landing in The Hidden Temple.
Very strange entrance...
Pls. is some magical fountain in the Temple?
I like it so much..
Especially this one in Hall of the Dead

[yoga]

Hi, mates,
Again in trouble.

I am in the Hidden temple.
I explored some places and i am ready to goto locations 8 and 9 for big fight.
But when i approached location 25 ( i suppose this one will lead me to loc. 8 and loc.9, suddenly a trap opened before me and i fall down. Then heavy fightings and return again to start point loc.1. But 2 of my heroes are ill and soon they died.

Why, please?
Thanks.

Attachments are enclosed to clear the situation.

Map acc. to site Sorcerer's place

[Scatty]

First you need to explore some more and find a Wooden Shaft (or Wooden Dowel? Don't remember exactly anymore) in a chest behind a nice cosy seaview (you'll know what I mean when you find it) somewhere on this level. After that put it into a small hole in the wall, in the corridor around the entrance to the trap. After that the trap will be deactivated and you can pass safely.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by Scatty

First you need to explore some more and find a Wooden Shaft (or Wooden Dowel? Don't remember exactly anymore) in a chest behind a nice cosy seaview (you'll know what I mean when you find it) somewhere on this level. After that put it into a small hole in the wall, in the corridor around the entrance to the trap. After that the trap will be deactivated and you can pass safely.

Spasibo!
I explore and explore even i reach the surface!
Note: The game becomes more and more difficult.
I need that nice spell from W6 - lifesteal. Here?
But long explore has good point- i reach lvl 11 for my priest TWILL. The next is
Valkirie BRAVE.

Master Scatty, do You progress in W 8?
Between 7 and 8 You will vote for?
Glaube fuer 6.
Ha ha ha

[yoga]

Wow.
I found the first big boss who elimanated me easy.
Lord of the dark Forest or like.

I found point 9. South.

Hmmm...first time brave is badly beaten. ha ha ha
He attacks supported by 3 Impani Scouts, some mad one + he has the option to
create more monsters.
Even protected with all my 3 options, i was down after 4-5 rounds.
No place to run or hide. Just after the downstair they awaited me.
2 men are 11 lvl, 4 - 10 .
Well, i will prepare better and start video to see (if) my victory.
Ah!!


You are kindly invate to see this free show.
As usually free cold beer - Heiniken or..
Tell Yr friends.
Do not miss it.

[Scatty]

Originally Posted by yoga

I need that nice spell from W6 - lifesteal. Here?

Master Scatty, do You progress in W 8?
Between 7 and 8 You will vote for?
Glaube fuer 6.
Ha ha ha

Lifesteal spell is there. And it's deadly if it hits - 600-1400 points of damage for enemy, depending on power level cast. However many stronger monsters in Wizardry VII have high Lifeforce resistance, so the spell also often fails to hit them. Nuclear Blast, Fire Bomb, Firestorm or Iceball is often much more reliable for damage.

I'm still in Wizardry VIII, this time soloing it with a Priest wielding 2x Diamond Eyes. This game has even more fun factor than the previous Wizardry 6 and 7, in my opinion - so many possibilities and replay value.

Originally Posted by yoga

Wow.
I found the first big boss who elimanated me easy.
Lord of the dark Forest or like.

Lord of the Dark Forest is a deadly foe for low-level parties. I'd recommend you level a bit to have at least level 15, before facing him.
The Mad Warders and Munk Ninjas who almost always accompany him should also not be underestimated, especially on Expert mode. They can devastate a low-level party in just a few rounds if you don't have Ninjutsu (to be able to hide) skill on all party members through dual-classing. So you need to have strong spells available on your spellcasters and good weapons for melee characters, especially if the Lord of the Dark Forest summons a Godzylli (and he often does) - that's where hell of a fun begins

But I gladly accept your invitation to the video of your epic battle with him

[yoga]

Mates,
I did terrible mistake. But i am not guilty. Yes. Pls. listen ah read.
In my exploration in the Hidden Temple i incidentally press the button on wall at loc. 16. This button is very important - it is the key to Onyx key. Pressing button leads to destroying the button!!!
Yes!! First time i meet similar idiocy!!!
This way the progress of gamer is stopped forever.

Gladly i remember the words of wise Kmonster. (Long life of Kmonster!!)
-- yoga, do save before every step!!!
And i do it.

Pls. excuse me i will out some hours to start from my save file..
For the novices: Do not press this button before the real time.!!!