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[Lulu_Jane]

I'm confused, are you arguing with yourself?

[DarthHelmet86]

I think he is trying to claim that Rebel Fighter and Tie Fighter were just simulations in that game world, not real events. A pity that is in no way the case, they were depicting events from the Star Wars Extended Universe. You can easily have a Star Wars game with little to no mention of the force, it isn't a required part of the story structure, however the sci-fi aspect isn't either, blasters, light sabers, faster then light travel, space flight are major aspects of the series. But even then I could see them being not needed, a simple story about a young man on a backwards world with no access to high tech weapons or space but still being hunted by the Sith for his Force abilities.

So to put it in a shorter way, yes I could see a Star Wars game without the Force or Sci-Fi...but without both no I don't think that would work.

Also if you think the tech talk in Star Wars is just double speak, you might want to look into the cannon books that explain the tech and have a talk to the scientists who have said that in the near future a weapon like the light saver is possible. Star Trek was just as bad for techno-babble to make its future tech work, all Sci-Fi movies and show are really. To explain future technology based on what we know today is impossible, to us in reality the tech would look more like magic then science. So they need to make a bit of a leap add in new tech talk to make it seem real and sciencey.

[jonh_sabugs]

Where's the all of the above option?

[RRS]

I'm also playing & enjoying games from all of the above settings, the point is about picking just one you like the most.

[Smiling Spectre]

Scatty, Lulu_Jane, thank you for recomendations. I am not very big fan of all this first person RPGs (so it's a main reason why whole Gothic and Elder Scrolls series passed beside me), but I see too many recomendations of it recently... I can try it later.

[Scatty]

Actually, I wouldn't put the Elder Scrolls series together with Gothic. They're pretty different kind of games, even if both series share first person view. Morrowind is yet most comparable to Gothic of all Elder Scrolls series, even if from all of them I would recommend Daggerfall most, but they all share the kinda cold, a bit (or quite, you name it) aimless huge world.
Not so in Gothic, that one is almost the opposite - the game world is rich with "hand-crafted", full of details content and lively NPC's doing their (different for each one) day-duties. It's a very good simulation of a living world, and each corner of it has it's own purpose and interesting details.

[Smiling Spectre]

Scatty I have weird connections in my head, so sorry for that. Of course, this games are different in terms of "global" gameplay, but in most taken moments you do the same things: wave your sword (aim your bow/cast your spells - no matter) trying to kill this annoying enemy. Both games are realtime, both are stats-dependant, both are first person and both have requirements of two skills: quite fast reflexes and ability to orienting in 3D-world. So they are "similar" for me. Also, that makes me quite wary, as I am not a big specialist of it.

On the other hand, I have more skills than I thought (as I was able to play Borderlands recently), so actually it have sense for me now to try this sort of games too.

[Pex]

I actually like all of those - it really depends on the game. But then I went through the games I usually play and love and the winner was fantasy.

[RRS]

If anyone is interested, sci-fi won at MobyGames edition of this poll:
http://www.mobygames.com/poll/results/pollId,1171/