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[TheChosen]

Oh I get it! Do something in the past and something like that will happen.

[Hadiel]

WAKE UP CALL!

1. Time is something invented by swiss ppl so they have an excuse to sell us clocks and watches, before the swiss did this we had the sun and the moon to show us "the time"

2. With the invention of time came stress. that's right, STRESS :wallbash: the #1 reason for burnouts and such. things like "OMFG i'm late for work" and "WTF it's X past XX already?" (replace x with any given number) I.E. not the best invention ever.

3. The possibility that timetravel will be abused is ******* HUGE! Approx 70% of the survivors of the 2nd world war will attempt to go back in time to kill the bastard (hitler) himself. Bloodwrath is imminent, killing the murderer of your husband / child etc. total chaos will emerge and the world will slowly but surely crumble into nothingness.

4. Who in his right mind would go back in time to kill his/her own grandfather?!?!?

5. EVERYBODY will try to go back in time to "prevent this mistake from ever happening". Chaos is, once again, very imminent.

6. (the first positive thing) you can try and stop the swiss from "inventing" time, effectively changing Timetravel to Whatevertravel.

7. yes indeed, there will be numerous time clashes (Timecop, Cycles of dawn, Groundhog day, etc.) In the end, the fabric of time will not be able to coop and the universe will end.

I hereby rest my case. k:
Shoot me if you will.

[Daneic]

Without getting into quantum theories; We know that we can travel foreward in time. We do so all the time after all. Backwards though is trickier..

I believe also that if it is possible to go back in time, and someone does this, he would not change anything, because whatever he does would have already happened in whatever time he went back to. In other words, I think that it would be impossible to change the course of history, because if you did the butterfly effect would most probably make you never go back in time, or even get born if you went back before you were born.

Another possibility would be that if we change something, we create a whole new universe, where whatever change you have caused to the world would be what "always" had happened. You, being of the universe you came from, would not be affected by the fact that this new universe never produced "yourself".

[RyuRanX]

Sure it's possible. Hiro Nakaruma can do that !!!

[songnar]

Time travel to the future is not an entirely rediculous item, one must simply slow down enough to allow time to pass him by, however, a machine that could travel to the past is only able to go back as far as the time at which the machine would have been created, if you attempt to return to a time before the machine existed...

[Sebatianos]

It's perfectly possible in theory, but highly improbably in practice.

If Einstein was correct, then time is dependent on the speed you travel with. So if you'd be traveling faster then light, you could travel back in time.

If on the other hand you'd be slower then not moving you'd travel forward in time.

There's only slight catch to both...

Things with have any mass at all (and all existing things in our universe have mass) can not reach the speed of light (let alone go faster). While on the other hand to be slower then standing still would require to be all mass and no energy at all, but guess what, if an object wouldn't have any energy, there's be nothing to hold the atoms together and that object would in fact de-materialise.

So it's possible in theory, but doubt it can ever be done in practice.

[_r.u.s.s.]

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Things with have any mass at all (and all existing things in our universe have mass) can not reach the speed of light (let alone go faster). While on the other hand to be slower then standing still would require to be all mass and no energy at all, but guess what, if an object wouldn't have any energy, there's be nothing to hold the atoms together and that object would in fact de-materialise.
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so maybe if now somebody build something like chamber which "materialises" ..shattered attoms in the chamber, people in future could maybe travel from future, when they step in to the chamber, being able to travel in timeline: <chamber built, future) and if they travel too much in to the past, they stay dematerialised among dinosaurs o_O ..or near hitler=)

btw

In that way it would be probably that you'd do more damage by not going into the past.[/b]

it Would do more harm if you didnt travel back, but you are just not able not to do so (cause its constant). so if its constant, we can do whatever we want, everything is already "written"

[Sebatianos]

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we can do whatever we want, everything is already "written"
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That's the big question. Is everything already writen or is the future an open book?

Come to think of it...

If the future is already written then you can't change anything. But if it's not, can you then even travel into the future? I mean, is it already there?

[Bobbin Threadbare]

We're travelling fowards through time now. Just not at a very fast rate.
And O SHI-- SEB IS BACK!

[Sebatianos]

Oh, and to come back to two points that Tulac and russ mentioned...

If you could go back in time and change something, that would effect the things to come.

1) Lets say you would create a time machine today and go back in the past with it. You'd go back to let's say year 1925, find Adolf Hitler and kill him, so there'd be no Nazi movement in Germany.

Not counting the fact you'd be causing great differences in the political balance of the world (who knows what would happen between the Soviet Union and the Western world if there would be no WW2), you would also do something else.

You were born after WW2, so when the date of your birth took place (in the now changed time line) you - or the rest of the world would know nothing of Adolf Hitler, so even if you'd create the time machine again you wouldn't go back to the year 1925 to kill Hitler, so you wouldn't change the timeline and it would again return to the way it was before - where again you'd change it and so on. It would be a cycle that would loop up to the point where you went back in time and both timelines would most probably colapse at the end of it.

2) About something being constant...
Seeing how the time line did not colapse yet and we're living fairly normally inside it, there is also a possibility that you can't change nothing.

Imagine you'd go back to the WW1 and try to kill Hitler there (yeah, I guess I'm obsessed with killing a dead guy) and you'd find him on the frontline. You'd shoot, miss and kill another soldier who (if not killed) would have killed Hitler.

So if you wouldn't go back in the past Hitler would be dead. The fact he wasn't was because you tried to interfeare. By trying to change sometihng in the past you actually made things the way there were in the timeline you know, so you would breake the timeline if you wouldn't travel to the past. This would mean there is a constant and whatever you would do wouldn't effect anything, because it was suppose to happen that very same way. In that way it would be probably that you'd do more damage by not going into the past.


Can't you just tell I love such stuff. I really like "removing the dust" so to say off these different theories of mine.