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[rlbell]

The winner will be the captain with the least competent engineering staff in charge of shields and weapons.

The reliability of any system in the Trek universe is inversely proportional to the competence of the people available to fix it. The only exception is the holodeck-- no one knew how to fix it, but it kept failing, anyways.

Scotty could rebuild a transporter in his sleep and Geordie could work miracles with a warp core, or why when both of them were on the Enterprise in "Relics", some excuse had to be made to get them to a ship that was already without fully functional warp engines and transporters.

Kirk, in the Enterprise, is hosed, because he does not have any of the unspecified technowizardry that reduced combat ranges by a factor of a thousand in ST:TNG (note: this was really due to the inability of ST:TOS to present multiple ships in the shot; unless, they were in close formation, so all ranges were cleverly written to prevent two fighting ships appearing in one shot). The Enterprise D can engage an unmodified Enterprise at ranges of tens of thousands of kilometers, but is effectively cloaked to return fire at all but the shortest range.

[Danny252]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chadtherodentslayer @ Oct 17 2006, 06:08 AM) [snapback]261658[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Spider Mastermind @ Oct 16 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]261545[/snapback]

Picard because even if he wasn't better than Kirk (despite the writers supplying fanservice by having him need help from Kirk in Generations) he's more familiar with the ship.

Kirk'd be "Quantum torpedoes? What are they?" and "Wait, we have phaser strips that now cover a complete arc around all parts of the ship, now. Wow?"
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its foton torpedoes. and the single word wow is not to be formed as a question.
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It's Photon Torpedoes. That, and sentences shouldn't start with an "and".

[Acoustic Sectoid]

and th'ats final?

[#BlakhOle#]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Oct 17 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]261675[/snapback]</div>

pfeh they can't even destroy one Ori ship with that thing....
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And Picard or Kirk can?

By the way, how do quantum torpedoes work?

[Xikarita]

Darth Vader in a Super Star Destroyer :brain: :bleh:

[giganto]

Vader was nothing compared to the Sith Lords 4,000 years before the rise of the Empire.
A Sith Interdictor ship could whoop a star destroyer's behind.

[Quintopotere]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chadtherodentslayer @ Oct 22 2006, 05:07 PM) [snapback]262909[/snapback]</div>

Vader was nothing compared to the Sith Lords 4,000 years before the rise of the Empire.
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Well, the the ancient prediction say clearly that Vader/Anakine is the greatest jedi: "the one who brought balance in the Force"

However, Picard is obviously going to win, but just because he's helped by Data!

[giganto]

this is not a star wars discussion, it is a star TREK discussion. enough!

[TheChosen]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(U-Boat Commander David @ Oct 16 2006, 03:40 PM) [snapback]261582[/snapback]</div>

It seems like there are not many Kirk Supporters around anymore....

Thats what you get for living in the past.
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Kirk will win! Kirk will win!

[gregor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(#BlakhOle# @ Oct 21 2006, 01:18 AM) [snapback]262663[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Oct 17 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]261675[/snapback]

pfeh they can't even destroy one Ori ship with that thing....
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And Picard or Kirk can?

By the way, how do quantum torpedoes work?
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yes i think Picard's Enterprise is much larger then the SG ships. Oh their shuttles seem lamer but they actually aren't. Unlike the SG vessels they have toperdoes (quantum or photon) and phased weapons which can sustain a long burts of fire while the ship is manouvering arround enemy. Notoe how both Ori and SG ship basically stand face to face witout much movements. It appears they need to be more or less steady during combat. Also Ori ship could fire only in the front. If Enterprise went fast towards it it could fly over it while shooting it continuously with phasers. once they would pass it they could fire a salvo of torpedoes (full spread) from rear tubes.

SG ship is not capable of doing that. in fact their rockets seem pathetic even against the Wraith ship. Photone torpedoes are much faster and much stronger then those.

ehm:

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