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Originally Posted by vvomble

perhaps i'm missing something here:

I start i build a factory and a research facility i go to the warehouse and get prototype plans for 5hp open top small car,

I then take the drawings out of the draw and start production.

along the way hiring the workers obviously.

when i start production it tells me i have no parts but i can't make parts just off the prototype plans.

i don't get how i actually produce a car


any help greatly appreciated

thanks
Ben

Hi Ben,

In the first couple of years, you have to build cars from imported parts. You can order sample parts with the help of the bearded guy in the warehouse. In 14 days, you receive the parts, and can check them in the Stock window of the warehouse. You should check all the engines, chassis and bodies you got, decide which you want to use, then order the necessary amount.

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask!

Hello fellow Oldtimer/Motorcity fans. I thought I share something I created a long time ago. I made it to get rid of the RSI task of repeatedly finding out what could be invented in a certain year. I made a list containing all the completed research projects in a certain year, accompanied with the year the research can be started. The list is build up like this:

First line: Year of availability (to produce by yourself).
Then there are 3 options: (Body name), (E)ngine of (C)hassis.

If that year a Body is available it will first list the (Body name);
the (Body name) will be followed by a '$' or 'R' with a number. The number is the last 2 digits of the year that model/engine/chassis can be (R)esearched or ($)bought. That is followed by 2 letters. The first letter is the body size: (s)mall, (m)edium or (l)arge. The second letter will be the roofshape (o)pen (s)oft or (c)losed.

Leaves the (E)ngines and (C)hassis:

a 'C' or 'E' followed by a number means (C)hassis or (E)ngine with its corresponding cylinder number. That will be followed by its corresponding horsepower. That by the year the engine/chassis is possible to (R)esearch or ($)buy. That will be followed by size: (s)mall, (m)edium or (l)arge.

In practice: The Rxx or $xx are the important numbers. In that year it is possible to give your research team an order to get started on researching the corresponding object. Meaning objects that come available in the year 1902 can be started by you in 1900.

The list is nearly complete. Meaning I tried every possible combination. But sometimes it is not clear, indicated by a question mark. So additions are appreciated.

After the first list I made a second list, listing per category what becomes available in what year.

The first list:

1893
Durybo $96 s s

1894
E1 5

1896
E1 5 $96 s
C5 $96 s
C10 $96 m

1897
Voiturettes$96 s o
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Manchester$96 m o
E2 10 (1901 best)$96 m

1898
E2 5 $96 m144

1899
E2 5 R$97 M66

1900
Bourdette R$98? S s

1901
C5 R98 s $99
C15 R98 s $99
C15 R98 m $99
C15 R98 l $99
E1 10 $99 s
E2 10 R98 m $99
E2 15 R98 m $99

1902
Torneau R99 s s $00
C25 R99 m $00
E2 15 --- $00
E4 20 (1906 best) R98 @ $00m

1903
Hendric R99 m o $01
Cadiaco R99 s o $01
E1 10 R98 s $01
E1 10 $03 s
E2 10 R?03 m $01

1904
Peerless $03 m s $02
C25 $03 m^L $02
E4 25(1905 best)
$03 m $02

1905
Spyker R@03 m o
E1 10 R@03 s
E4 25 R@03
E6 40 R03 L

1906
Popclyde R04 M s
Dark R04 L o
Albion R04 L s
E2 10 R05 S
E4 20 R04 M
E3 20
E6 25 R04 L

1907
Guggenberg R05 L s ($07 m s)
C35 R05 m
C50 R05 L
E4 20 $06 L
E4 25 $06 L
E2 25 R05 M
E6 50 R05 L

1908
Brisar R06 M s
Gemon R06 M s
Lanchaster R06 M s
Voiture R06 L s
C90 R$06 L
E4 15 R06 s s
E4 20 R$06 s s
E4 25 $06 M s
E4 25 $08/9 s
E4 40 R$06 M s

1909
Martini R07 s o
Jumber-sport R07 s o ($07 m o)
C10 R07 s
C25 $07 M
C70 R07 L
E2 10
E4 10 $07 L
E2 10 $07 M
E4 20 $07 L
E4 40 $07 L
E6 70 $07 L

1910
Metallique R07 L s s
Brush R07 L s s
Bianchi R07 L s s
E4 15 $08 s
E4 20 $08 s
E4 20 $08 M
E4 40 $08 s
E4 40 $10 s

1911
Clemant R07 L s o
Wolsely $07 m o
Winston $07 m s
Stanley R07 m s
Bearcat R07 m o
Belleville R07 m s
Gregoire R07 m o
Modena R? R08 s s
Selabre R? R06 s o
C25 R08 m
C35 R08 m
E4 20 R08 s
E4 20 R08 L
E4 85 R08 L

1912
Singer R08 s s
Stoewer R09 s s
Rover R09 s s
E4 10 $10 s
E4 15 $10 s
E4 15 $10 m
E4 15 $10 L
E4 20 $10 m
E4 40

1913
Apollo R09 s s
Rhylard R09 m o
Minor R10 m h
Hudson R10 m s
Bebe R10 L s
C15 R10 s
E4 10
E4 15
E4 70 R10 L

1914
Woodelite R10 L o
Maxwell R12 m o
Henry R?
E4 50 R11 s

1915
C25
C50 R11 m
C70 R11 L
E6 70 R11 L

1916
C50 R12 m
E6 25 R12 m

1917
C90 R13 L

1918
Buick R14 m s
C35

1919
Classic R15 m c
C10 R15 s
C15 R15 m
C70 R15 s
E4 25 R15 s
E4 20 R15 s
E4 30 R15 s
E4 50 R15 s

1920
Tamplin R16 s s
Bouton R17 m o
Darracq R15 m c
Cowley R16 s s
Isotta R? R17 m s
E4 25 R15 m
E8 25 R15 L

1921
Berliet R20 s o
Raulant R20 s o
Oldsmobil R20 s o
Ceirano R20 s s
Dupont R20 s s
Nash Four R20 s c
Napier R20 s c
C35 R17 m
E4 10 R18 s
E2 20 R18 s
E4 40 R18 s
E4 50 R18 M
E4 60 R17 L
E6 85 R17 L

1922
Hotchkiss R21 s o
OMOA R21 s c
Lambda R21 L o
Vitesse R21 L c
Kentbury R? R21 L c
C50 R19 M
E1 10 R18 S
E4 15 R21 s
E4 15 R21 s
E6 85 R18 L
E6 85 R18 M
E8 100 R18 L

1923
Aktio R22 m o
Clement R22 m s
Ansaldo R22 m c
Alvis R23 m c
Trojan R23 m s
Superior R23 m s

1924
Austin R23 L c
Bean R23 L s
C35 R21 M
C70 R21 L
C120 R20 L
E4 10 R21 s
E4 15 R21 s

1925
Clair R23 s c
Lorraine R23 L o
Sunbeam R23 L s
Cault R24 L o
Junior R24 M s
Lagonda R24 M s
E6 25 R21 m
E4 25 R22 m

1926
E4 30 R22 m
E6 50 R22 m

1927
Studebaker R24 m s
Kinley R24 m s
Viola R? R24 m s

1928
Jean-Francis R25 s o

1929
Barcley R25 m s
Midget R25 L s
Volmoy R? R25 L c
Doulouse R? R26 s c
E6 25 R25 m

1930
Maribor R? R26 L s
Tacao R? R27 m o

1931
Invicta R27 L c
Armon R?

1935
Arnsburn R?

1936
Delahaye-sport


Some parts are available in the gamefiles but are not possible to develop (at least to my knowledge, listed below with a R?). But like I said: Additions are welcome!


Second list:

Body

1893 Durybo
1897 Voiturettes
1897 Manchester
1900 Bourdette
1902 Torneau
1903 Hendric
1903 Cadiaco
1904 Peerless
1905 Spyker
1906 Popclyde
1906 Dark
1906 Albion
1907 Guggenberg
1908 Brisar
1908 Gemon
1908 Lanchaster
1908 Voiture
1909 Martini
1909 Jumber-sport
1910 Metallique
1910 Brush
1910 Bianchi
1911 Clemant
1911 Wolsely
1911 Winston
1911 Stanley
1911 Bearcat
1911 Belleville
1911 Gregoire
1911 Modena R?
1911 Selabre R?
1912 Singer
1912 Stoewer
1912 Rover
1913 Apollo
1913 Rhylard
1913 Minor
1913 Hudson
1913 Bebe
1914 Woodelite
1914 Maxwell
1914 Henry R?
1918 Buick
1919 Classic
1920 Tamplin
1920 Bouton
1920 Darracq
1920 Cowley
1920 Isotta R?
1921 Berliet
1921 Raulant
1921 Oldsmobil
1921 Ceirano
1921 Dupont
1921 Nash Four
1921 Napier
1922 Hotchkiss
1922 OMOA
1922 Lambda
1922 Vitesse
1922 Kentbury R?
1923 Aktio
1923 Clement
1923 Ansaldo
1923 Alvis
1923 Trojan
1923 Superior
1924 Austin
1924 Bean
1925 Clair
1925 Lorraine
1925 Sunbeam
1925 Cault
1925 Junior
1925 Lagonda
1927 Studebaker
1927 Kinley
1927 Viola R?
1928 Jean-Francis
1929 Barcley
1929 Midget
1929 Volmoy R?
1929 Doulouse R?
1930 Maribor R?
1930 Tacao R?
1931 Invicta
1931 Armon R?
1935 Arnsburn R?
1936 Delahaye-sport

Chassis

1896 fahrwerk1 5
1896 fahrwerk1 10
1901 fahrwerk1 5
1901 fahrwerk1 15
1901 fahrwerk1 15
1901 fahrwerk1 15
1902 fahrwerk1 25
1904 fahrwerk1 25
1907 fahrwerk1 35
1907 fahrwerk1 50
1908 fahrwerk1 90
1909 fahrwerk1 10
1909 fahrwerk1 25
1909 fahrwerk1 70
1911 fahrwerk1 25
1911 fahrwerk1 35
1913 fahrwerk1 15
1915 fahrwerk1 25
1915 fahrwerk1 50
1915 fahrwerk1 70
1916 fahrwerk1 50
1917 fahrwerk1 90
1918 fahrwerk1 35
1919 fahrwerk1 10
1919 fahrwerk1 15
1919 fahrwerk1 70
1921 fahrwerk1 35
1922 fahrwerk1 50
1924 fahrwerk1 35
1924 fahrwerk1 70
1924 fahrwerk1 120

Engine

1896 1 5
1897 2 10 (1901 best model)
1901 2 15
1902 4 20 (1906 best model)
1903 1 10
1904 4 25 (1905 best model)
1906 3 15
1906 6 25
1907 2 25
1907 6 40
1907 6 50
1908 1 15
1908 4 20
1908 4 25
1908 4 25
1908 4 40
1909 2 10
1909 4 10
1909 2 10
1909 4 20
1909 4 40
1909 6 70
1910 4 15
1910 4 20
1910 4 30
1910 4 40
1911 4 20
1911 4 20
1911 4 85
1912 4 10
1912 4 15
1912 4 15
1912 4 15
1912 4 20
1912 4 40
1913 4 10
1913 4 15
1913 4 70
1914 4 50
1915 6 70
1916 6 25
1919 4 25
1919 4 20
1919 4 30
1919 4 50
1920 4 25
1920 8 25
1921 4 10
1921 2 20
1921 4 40
1921 4 50
1921 4 60
1921 6 85
1922 1 10
1922 4 15
1922 4 15
1922 6 85
1922 6 85
1922 8 100
1924 4 10
1924 4 15
1925 6 25
1925 4 25
1926 4 30
1926 6 50
1929 6 25

I've read the problem on this forum, but I haven't found any solutions or tips.

I have built a great empire which is able to generate 1-2 million bucks a month even from only 4 markets (Austria-Hungary, Germany, Belgium and Switzerland) during the troubled times of World War. Around the end of the war, small cars just stop selling without any particular reason, everyone wants to buy middle-ranged ones and limusines. No problem, I can wait a few years producing and selling only middle- and upper-class cars... But even around 1920-22, when I can oparate my business again throughout Europe, no one is willing to buy any small cars from me, even if I design a brand new model and sell it for $ 85! What could be the reason?

[Termie]

Hello,

The German "Oldtimer" wasn´t bug-free, so they published Patch/Update v1.2 for it ~1995. But it seems that also a Patch/Update v3.0 exists, look at this picture.

Can anyone provide this update disk, or better the disks content? This would be great! I´ve searched the web since weeks for this Update v3.0, no chance to find it anywhere.

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s.

no problems

in order to get sound run "setup.exe" via dosbox, in there:
*setup output hardware for music-> soundblaster 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 or higher
*setup output hardware for digital sound-> soundblaster 2.0 compatible card->220->7->1
*exit setup and save settings

Ok, done - how can I start the game? There are no exe-files around.

-JJ-

[The Fifth Horseman]

EXE is not the only format of DOS executable. Another one is COM.

[Pelikan]

manual in German:

http://hol.abime.net/2286/manual

Some pictures

http://www.igcd.net/game.php?id=1000...27711ac10710b0

[Pelikan]

It would be nice to have some old engine specifications. If you are able to provide some data I can try to impement it to that file.

[Tenzu]

I found this by combing the various abandonware sites:
http://ds.old-games.com/199f3e523b/f.../motorcity.txt

If that link doesn't work (it may be classified as a download for some reason), then you can find it by using this link instead:
http://www.old-games.com/download/4346/motor-city

This is only the portion of the manual about the game itself. It doesn't include any of the historical information. I have to admit, it's not as informative as I hoped. However, since others have asked for it, I thought I would share the link .

Does anybody know if there is English CD-ROM version of Motor City? Almost every abandonware site have floppy version (about 15M), and there is also German version - Oldtimer (about 94M). Was Motor City ever released on CD-ROM? Or was it floppy only?