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but by invading other countrys and bombing civilians all we do is create new terrorists.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Jul 7 2005, 12:59 PM
A agree that he should not be dismissed from the office because of a terrorist attack - that would only encourage the terrorist movement to keep making such attacks untill they themselves would agree with every PM on the face of the Earth (that's just* :not_ok: ).

You know, Seb, I like it when we agree on something. Restructuring the government because of a terrorist attack sends completely the wrong message - you're letting every terrorist organization in the world know that if they keep up the attacks, they will eventually get what they want. You're legitimizing their methods and giving them far too much political power, and that, in the end, will not be good for anyone but the terrorist organizations.

My condolences to the families of the victims of this latest attack, and may the perpetrators burn in hell.

[Microprose Veteran]

Fortunately, in a democracy, it's up to the voters to decide whether to keep or change their government.

Spain was a military dictatorship from 1939 till 1975. No problems with regime change in those times.

[efthimios]

It doesn't matter if it is the Labour or anyone else in power in the UK. Those idiots would still attack as long as they can. It is not exactly difficult to cause damage in a democracy. A way to deal with it, though on the fascist side, would be to expel all muslims no matter what nationality they are and shoot to kill any immigrants. It wouldn't be right and I am not proposing that, but it could solve the problem. The other way would be to actualy hunt down the heads of the terrorists instead of declaring war all the time. Defeat one enemy, then declare war to another. Several fronts at the same time=not a good idea.
I do agree with Blair stepping down (the whole government)m but only to elect a more strict to the obligations government. One that does something about terrorisms and not come up with half behind ideas and threats of other countries.

I do believe that the spanish did the right thing if seen from that purpsective but I do not think most spanish did so.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Microprose Veteran@Jul 7 2005, 09:37 PM
Spain was a military dictatorship from 1939 till 1975. No problems with regime change in those times.

What regime changes? It was either Franco or the cross above your head (more or less).

[Microprose Veteran]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Jul 7 2005, 07:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Jul 7 2005, 07:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Microprose Veteran@Jul 7 2005, 09:37 PM
Spain was a military dictatorship from 1939 till 1975. No problems with regime change in those times.

What regime changes? It was either Franco or the cross above your head (more or less). [/b][/quote]
As I said, Franco had no such problems whatsoever.

[efthimios]

Sebatianos, MV was semi-joking.

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by Microprose Veteran@Jul 7 2005, 07:37 PM
Fortunately, in a democracy, it's up to the voters to decide whether to keep or change their government.

Well, yes, but you're forgetting that at least in England the government decides when the voters will be allowed to make that decision. And even leaving aside the fact that there have just recently been elections, Tony Blair would have to be an exceptional idiot to have new elections at a time when it would only add to the general confusion. So much for the "just kick them out of office" bit.

[Microprose Veteran]

Is that true? I was always under the impression, in a democracy, that a 2/3 majority on a "no confidence"-vote in Parliament could cause the government to fall. In the UK for that to happen, of course Blair would have to alienate his own 'backbenchers' (non-prominent party members in Parliament) for that to happen.

In a democracy, when a "no confidence"-vote passes, the government falls and has no option to hold new elections. It doesn't matter if there have been elections recently. Of course, I don't think that is going to happen in Britain.

But look at Italy post World War II: there have been almost more cabinets (administrations) than there were years in that period.

I don't know how things work in the UK, but in the States the major companies would never stand for kicking the Republicans or the Democrats out of the government. Even if they were disbanded (which is illegal anyway), the companies would birth new political parties to manipulate. This is exactly why the Greens and the Libertarians never caught on in the States.