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Hy,
my first PC game ever.. Magic of Endoria. You can find a Boxshot here: http://www.thelegacy.de/Museum/4805/

[Scatty]

Wow, interesting game, I never heard of it before, and even Mobygames didn't. It reminds me a little of Excelsior Phase One (the actual Dos version was released at 1993).

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Wow, interesting game, I never heard of it before, and even Mobygames didn't. It reminds me a little of Excelsior Phase One (the actual Dos version was released at 1993).
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MoE was a strategy-game, so complex that they were forced to release a "Gold" Edition later on that took out all <strike>interesting</strike> complicated parts..

[Icewolf]

So... It's an DOS / C64 game that was released in 1994 by the German Design Group (never heard of them though I'm german... :blink.
It's no listed in the oldwarez list, so we have to investigate.

It's not older than 15 years. But this company doesn't seem to cooperate with the ESA.
But I'm no an expert in this. I just try to give a shortcut. k:

EDIT: Oh, I didn't see: Publisher and copyright is with Sunflowers! Look below! It's seems still to be sold.
So highly probable: NO GO! :not_ok:
Sorry

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EDIT: Oh, I didn't see: Publisher and copyright is with Sunflowers! Look below! It's seems still to be sold.
So highly probable: NO GO! :not_ok:
Sorry
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Uhm... look where? There is a marketplace called "Shop", but they only sell used games.. In the forum there is a link, but they are selling "new" games for the C64 and the SPECTRUM...

However, I've mailed Sunflowers, let's see what they think about it.

BTW: The game is a little bit like Dungeon Keeper, except for the fact that you have only one opponent how has your abilities. And the graphics were so cute.. (Please ignore the ugly C64 shots, better take a look here or here.)

[Icewolf]

Well you still can purchase it new or in a box with other games.
I think that leeds us to the conclusion that you can have it in exchange to the proof that you do something productive also called money.
The short word for that is

S O L D.

OK, serious:

Originally posted by BugMeNot
they are selling "new" games for the C64 and the SPECTRUM...

Good point here, but I don't know if a condition for making a DOS game abandonware is, that it's just not sold anymore as a DOS-game or at all. For all platforms.

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Well you still can purchase it new or in a box with other games.
I think that leeds us to the conclusion that you can have it in exchange to the proof that you do something productive also called money.
The short word for that is

S O L D.

OK, serious:

Good point here, but I don't know if a condition for making a DOS game abandonware is, that it's just not sold anymore as a DOS-game or at all. For all platforms.
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Uhm.. Maybe I'm blind and stupid.. Could you please post a link to a page* where you can buy Magic of Endoria? Direct to the page of the product?


*not ebay

[Icewolf]

I actually meant ebay. And I just saw that it's not a shop but a "GbR", so it's a company's commercial interest and not Sunflowers'. Cause I think that it's a remnant sale and Sunflowers has already been paid.

I believe you may be right. k:

But I think we better wait for the answer email of sunflowers.

Subject: [#YSV-248650]: Magic of Endoria
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:16:03 +0100
From: SUNFLOWERS Support Agent 11 <support@sunflowers.de>

Hallo,

wir danken Ihnen herzlich für das Interesse, das Sie unseren Spielen entgegen bringen.

Wir freuen uns immer über solcherart positives Feedback und wünschen Ihnen auch in Zukunft viel Freude an den Spielen unseres Unternehmens.

Magic of Endoria wird schon lange nicht mehr Vertrieben. Eventuell finden Sie im Internet, einem (Online-)Autkionshaus Ihrer Wahl bzw. auf Flohmärkten noch vereinzelt eine Ausgabe. Abandonware wird von uns nicht angeboten bzw. freigegeben.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen
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Translated:

(Marketing-Blabla)
Magic of Endoria is not sold anymore for a long time now. You may find a copy in the Internet, at an (online-) auction or on a garage sale. We don't offer/release abandonware.
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Sounds like a go to me :brain:

BTW: I've also mailed the "German Design Group", and they told me that I should contact Sunflowers.

[Icewolf]

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I have my doubts on this one. Does this mean they don't produce (in a way) abandonware
or
that they don't assign any of their games as abandonware?