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[Rogue]

Well, what do you think? Was he able to predict the feature or not? Also, how much do you know about him?

I know that he was a doctor, forgot now in which area of practice. He lived in Middle Ages, in around 16th-17th century.
I for my part think his visions were right, as some of them happened. And to foresee future is anyway not easy and it's not possible to be exact with it...

[cheesegrater]

Why is everyone sucking off Nostradamus? He was certainly not a prophet. The thing with phrophets is that only success is reported. We are not talking about all the prophets who made bad predictions. There were thousands of them. Eventually somebody will get something right. Also if you say there is going to be a war in the future, well, you're probably right. I do not believe he was able to see the future. He was just lucky enough that his predictions came somewhat true. Also the media twists his predictions to fit their own agenda. For example there was a show about how Nostradamus predicted September 11th. As if September 11th was the biggest tragedy in the history of humanity. I dismiss it as bullshit.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by cheesegrater@Dec 28 2004, 03:31 PM
For example there was a show about how Nostradamus predicted September 11th. As if September 11th was the biggest tragedy in the history of humanity. I dismiss it as bullshit.

I believe all those predictions were fake.


Anyway I don't know enough about nostradamus to give an opinion.
However there is that swastika in that cellar where he reportedly lived.
They claim its exactly from the period Nostradamus was alive but I'm skeptical.

[Rogue]

swastika

Can you explain a bit more?

Michel de Nostredame - Nostradamus was born 1503 in south France and he was doctor, mathematician, astrologer and astronomer.

He was performing some secret ritual involving alchemy, cabala, meditation and glass of water, and according to him, he was able to foresee the future. But as at that date there was popular which hunt, he had to burn most of his papers, and write in some odd lyric involving words from couple of languages.

He died at age of 63 announcing the day before that he will not be alive next day.

Nostradamus wrote a set of 100 quatrains, which should cover a period of 10 Centuries.

Hitler used some of his work to support rise of Nazis and there is a mystery about opening of his grave in France revolution, that he had a medallion with written year when his grave will be opened. (He died in half-sitting position, so he was buried also in that position)

Some interesting stuff.

Swastika is the twisted cross that the nazi's (Hiter) used as their sign. Originally a sign of mystical knowledge, it became corrupted and hated by everyone due to the misuse of the nazi's.

[Stroggy]

the swastika also known as a sundial.
Better known as:


In one of his visions he reportedly saw armies marching under the swastika, he drew the swastika in red paint in a cellar.
Ofcoarse the swastika is an ancient symbol so I guess, if you believe in this kind of stuff, he foretold the rise of nazi germany and its warmachine.

Anyway I don't know much about Kaballah but i've always learned that the kaballah was a way of unlocking the secrets of the world. Devine mathematical networks connecting each and everyone and so decifering the universe.
I can't see how Kaballah could make someone get visions.

But this certainly isn't the first or the last story in which devine atributes or superhuman powers are credited to the study or use of kabalah knowledge.
Take for example the Golem of Prague.

But I don't know Kaballah, very very few people study it for real, though claiming you study it has become a trend among quite a few celebrities... ofcoarse it doesn't take a genius to figure out they aren't learning the real kaballah.

[Kon-Tiki]

Where'd the "Drunken sod" option? 's Not because he studied the Kaballah that he's a prophet or can predict the future. Madonna does that too, and she's certainly not capable of doing that, now is she.

[Rogue]

Term 'Swastika' was never used in my language, as in our language represents 'Sister in law'.

I don't think that he left any trace of it, and if there was one, it's made by Nazis just to prove their rise.

AS for Kabala, I know only one man who performed rituals (He was born in Zagreb, Croatia), and as far as I know there are two different sides of it: White magic - good and black magic - bad. He performs prayers in the front of 'Tree of Life' (is that how do you call it in English?)

[Tom Henrik]

A little off-topic, but still

I like to judge these ancient persons by their name and nicknames:

Nck: Nostradamus
Real name: Michel de Nostredamus

Verdict: A very simple nick made from a very unoriginal name....
Score: He wasn't a cool guy

HERE is one who was cool, by my standards!

Nick: Paracelsus
Real name: Phillipus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim

Verdict: WOW!
Score: WOW!


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