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[Mighty Midget]

As this is the topic for new games also, I figured if anyone played or play any of these two fine games, then maybe they have some views or tips on them.

About DF: Anyone who ever played it are fully aware of the fact that it's bug ridden. It's fine to discuss how to counter measure the bugs, but please don't post "Daggerfall? No way José!". Be constructive about it, so that others may find a way to deal with the bugs.
EDIT: Here's some info on some DF bugs and some ways of dealing with them: http://www.svatopluk.com/daggerfall/bugs.stm

I left out Arena, as it is hosted here at Abandonia, with it's own thread, as well as Oblivion because it is so resource hungry that not many (?) abandonware players have a machine powerful enough to run it.
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So what do you say?

EDIT: Daggerfall will NOT become abandonware in the very near future, so don't ask where to get it. Thanks.

[TheChosen]

Theyre both really great RPG's. I almost sold my soul to Daggerfall when I got it.

EDIT: Does anyone have any links to MOD sites and MOD recommendations?

[Mighty Midget]

This is a DF fan site with mods http://www.svatopluk.com/daggerfall/mods/

A "daggerfall mod" google search revealed a bunch. I never modded my DF, so I can't give any reccommendations.

Enjoy

[TheChosen]

Hmm...juicy. Thanks.

By the way, are there any Arena mods? I asked about them long time ago, but I got no answers.

[Mighty Midget]

It doesn't seem to be any, as far as I gather. But here's a link to UESPWiki's Arena section anyway http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Arena

EDIT: About Morrowind: On "constant effect enchantment": Every site so far says you have to raise your IQ to about 4000-5000 and your enchantment skill to about 500. I found another way, that gives you the opportunity to create those sweeties all by yourself without having to search for a "fortify skill" spell.

All you need is a fair alchemy level, a modest intelligence and enchantment skill to start with. Create "fortify luck" and "fortify intelligence" potions. Drink them as you make them before creating the next one. Raise your luck to about 500 (doesn't take too many quaffs) and your IQ to nearly 1700. It did the trick for me, even if my enchantment skill was only 57.

Daggerfall: I posted this tip before, but here it is again: For those dungeon maps: Mark every intersection with a number, starting with 1. Mark the exit as say, x. At every intersection, mark which direction leads to which intersection number (remember to update previous intersections!). By going after the lowest number (and if it's the shortest way to the exit, also "x"), you should easily find your way out of the dungeon.

[Tulac]

The problem with Morrowind is it gets boring with time, as your character gets super strong, I always seem to lose the will to play it.

[Mighty Midget]

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The problem with Morrowind is it gets boring with time, as your character gets super strong, I always seem to lose the will to play it.
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I agree to some extent. When your character becomes a walking Juggernaut, it is far from challenging, combat-wise. But to me, the exploring bit is maybe the most important part. I got Tribunal and Bloodmoon, and visited for the first time an island up north, and it WAS really like being a tourist in an exotic land: Creatures I had never seen before, new plants to check out, new ingredients, new monsters, new scenery. It was, for some reason, cool to run up in the snowy mountains with funny foreign names.

EDIT: About power play: I like to create an enchanter/fighter character that will get as many HPs as possible. A Redguard with fav attributes strength and endurance, as well as being born a "Lady" (pun, ok ). I then start off with endurance of 85 and 60 HPs. The first to raise by x5 multipliers, are endurance and strength (for melee damage and carrying capacity). Oh, and I also always deal one to luck.

Main skills: Enchantment, Alchemy, Mystisism, Long Blade, Heavy Armour
Sec. skills: Every magic school except illusion, and speechcraft (for getting the most of trading, basically)

With mystisism I can deal with the opponents' magic, with heavy armour I can deal with physical damage. Of course having a Daedric sword with "restore health 51 on strike" with some 300 charges also help.

BUT: I also like to play a pure sorcerer: High elf with as many magica points as possible. Physically weak, but my, oh my what a cool thing it is to stride forth wearing only a robe (as well as a couple of really neat magical items) and smite my enemies to smithereens just by a casual wave of a hand as I pass by...

[silz]

Morrowind is perfect. I mean I'm a prisoner but an Imperial prisoner. There were doubts, questions that needs to be answered. I have to do things for the Blades, to be given some info...totally makes sense. Information comes with a price. Everything was revealed at the Eranibenisum camp from the wise women as I happened to choose a Dark Elf char. Its also amazing to see those failed Nerevar incarnate. It only shows you are a possibility but you have to fight your way, to prove yourself so you won't fail like the others. The story goes from strength to strength. It was amazing.

But Oblivion (sorry to be OT) leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Having been a TES fan since Morrowind, I always help but wonder why on earth the game starts with a prisoner. Out of ideas maybe? It doesn't make sense to me. Come on, there definitely are better way to start than a prison again! Whats worse is the Emperor can waste so much time chatting to my char in Oblivion saying about the prophecies and such like crossing path and all that crap than do nothing. Seriously,I would have opted the other way out through the gate (but its locked). As a prisoner, I'm supposed to risk myself to aid his arse? No wai!!!

[Talin]

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EDIT: Daggerfall will NOT become abandonware in the very near future, so don't ask where to get it. Thanks.
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actually, they will release it when it turns 20 or something, like they did Arena, so its not THAT far away in to the future


and as for Daggerfall, ive have not had that much bugs in my games, well of course ive fallen through the void a couple of times, and once a long hard random quest saving a mayors daughter (or something like that) from a 99+ level dungeon with elder vampires and such rewarded me with a pair of pretty cheap iron boots for my troubles when i was done.... either the mayor was a cheap a**hole, or there was a bug in the reward system :P

but other then that, ive been pretty lucky, no corrupted saves, no messed up main quests and such.

and i have to agree with Tulac, Morrowind gets real boring after level 40, when everything ya meet dies with one smack or two with the sword.

[Tulac]

Indeed, but it's like that with every game, once you know the world it can't be that interesting anymore.