I got me a new machine with Vista Home Premium (32 bits), and supprise, when trying to run some of them older games I get told that the game frown on Vista, even in compatibility mode.

F22 Total Air War: No sound. I got an error message when installing it, but I forgot what it said (DOH!). I'll try to re-install it and take notes.

X:Tension: Wrong OS though XBTF works fine. Trouble is that X:T is kinda cool but XBTF is dull as a bladeless knife.

Caesar 3: Won't install at all no matter what. "Wrong OS".

Falcon 4.0 Allied Force: Really unstable, though it was very stable under XP

Microsoft's Virtual PC 7: Won't install. Not supported?

Saitek X-45 Flight Controller: I found no programming software for Vista machines, and the Vista drivers from Saitek are kind of unstable.

DirectX issues: Few if any cards and drivers today use DX 10 technology. As I understand it, Vista use DX 10 technology (could be wrong). How to "degrade" the version? And is it really necessary?

Morrowind (Tribunal/Bloodmoon) last version (European patch): When trying to exit the ship at the beginning, the game stops responding. I tried various patches, but to no use.

This topic is for problems that occur and solutions. Yes, "Google is your friend" and all that, but if many have the same issues, then a topic lioke this would be better. So, if you have Vista, and are facing a challenge, feel free to post and maybe someone knows the answer (he prayed).

I don't think Vista is meant for the end consumer for at least a year or two, the same was with XP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tulac @ Mar 22 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]284583[/snapback]</div>Fair enough, but when Microsoft's own recent software is uncompatible then it's my guess that there is more to this than just a dozen service packs. The kernel is different from XP's, or so I've heard, so is the file system. I know that some, like Mozilla, are working to get their products to work under Vista, but so far no luck.

About MSN Messenger Live, I found that there is a patch out (Messenger Plus Live) that makes Live work under Vista. Another way I found which didn't do the trick, was to type some mumbo jumbo in CMD as admin. Basically what I look for are fixes/methods from the manufacturers, pros and amateurs.

I guess then that the transition will take even more time, are you still on Vista or switched back to XP?

Still on Vista. My "version" of XP isn't alltogether, in every nitty gritty detail, approved by MS, and that started to bug me when they found out and started to bombard my PC with "buy or die" stuff.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Mar 22 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]284575[/snapback]</div>That's extremely hard to believe. Vista is of course supported, and actually VPC works flawlessly in officially non-supported Windows versions like my XP Home. You mean VPC 2007, the latest version right? There's a 32 bits installer and a 64 bits one. Just use the proper one, download it from MS Download Centre, I'd bet you're trying to install the 64 bits application on your 32 bits system.

Actually with VPC you'll be able to solve all your compatibility problems if you set up a Win9X machine or whatever you need.

Unfortunately, even if it's hard to believe: It wouldn't install. I dld both versions because the 32 didn't work at first so I tried the 64 one. No-go at both.

EDIT: A visit to microsoft revealed that Vista Home Premium is not supported. Strange.

there is a lesson to be learnt in all this...

i am not going for vista. i just bought XP... :D

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Mar 22 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]284575[/snapback]</div>I'm not 110 % certain but I 'think' that Vista actually comes with it own version of DX9 and but even if not it should be backwards compatible anyway also most of the problems that games have are likely to be from the user account restrictions and protection on the kernal etc and not from having dx 10 as opposed to dx9 so I would not imagine that there would be any value gained by degrading if that is possible.

for any game that does not recognise that dx is installed you may need to use the compatability mode option and I believe that that is accessed in the same way as xp's

as ever please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong LOL

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Mar 23 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]284616[/snapback]</div>Ah it will most likely go like with XP, Proffesional is officially supported but Home isn't. Then again VPC works fine in non-officially supported Win versions, that's true for me and for everyone I've heard or read of. Maybe it's different for Vista because it's so new; in that case the coming version of VPC will likely work even with unsupported versions just like in XP.

But it is odd indeed. It won't even install? It would be another thing if VPC installed with a warning about your Win version's not being "supported", and then it didn't work properly. But not installing at all? :huh:

---> Say, have you tried downloading the latest version of Windows Installer for your system?

(And, did you download VPC from MS Download Centre or from a third party, bootleg source? If the latter then try the former.)