Last week I saw the game play movies from the next release in the Elder Scrolls serie (Morrowind's successor) and I was really impressed:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/media_movies.htm

The game looks great and the physics and AI really impressed me. The release is sheduled for this month and I was wondering who else besides me is eagerly awaiting this?

Well, I'm interested to see it, as its the same people who will be doing Fallout 3 in the near future, but I don't have overly high hopes. I thought Morrowind was the weakest of the Elder Scrolls games, although from the previews I've read it looks like Oblivion is addressing some (but not all) of those issues. On the bright side, Sean Bean, one of my most favorite people ever, is doing some voice acting for it.

I'll probably get it, since my computer can handle it and I am very curious about it anyways.

Ooh, me! :w00t:
Being a fan of Morrowind initally, and a fan of the series now, I followed that game since it was announced.

Already pre-ordered the CE :D

Oh Heck Yeah! I've already got my copy on order at Amazon. Bethesda are really an amazing company, and the Elder Scrolls games have never ceased to impress me.

Getting the 360 version so I can cart it (along with the 360) around to my friends' homes, who will all be wanting to play it.

Not that excited, but since I own all the other games (except for Arena, only got a download of that) I might as well get it.
Daggerfall is over-rated!

:cry: I'm so thoroughly broke I'll have to save for a little while more, but I'm not going to wait until it hits the bargain bins... ;)

My computer is too weak for that... :(

like all my frineds and schoolmates, including one teacher

Although it does look great I'm not going to get it right away, I can wait... :bleh:

I preordered it a while back, and my PC Gamer which arrived this morning has a review (though I've not read it yet...)

I have Morrowind but never completed it. I'll look into Oblivion and might buy it. It looks wonderfull and my computer can handle it but I'll probably wait for it to arrive on budget before buying. I'm dissapointed by the Bethesda stand on multiplayer.

I'm more interrested in what Fallout 3 will be.

I'll be really looking forward to the modding community digging its teeth into Oblivion. Instead of revving up after a while, as they did with Morrowind, most of the modders I know are prepared with what they want to do, and how to set about doing it. There will be a lot of transcription of excellent mods almost immediately, while other modders are looking forward to the extra depth afforded by Radiant script nesting.

I am a big fan of ES series, surely i can't miss Oblivion.

? Eh ?
Did it come out earlier in the UK? doesn't come out till end of march for the US I think...

That's why I preordered it :) It's out on Friday.

Haven't played Morrowing and the reviews for that are mixed. Some say it's great others say the open-endedness just sucks. If I ever get around to buying a 360 I'll get it just to have a look.

Mass Effect, now that looks good :)

I spent ages on Morrowind the Elder Scrolls and i got pretty far in it too. Then my computer crashed and i lost all my save files (stupid computer :ranting: ). It kind of lost its appeal after that. But I liked what i did play, so ill have a good look at oblivion. :ok:

I dunno why everyone is so excited about this game. It's basically Morowind with bling-bling graphics and some bad things from Morrowind corrected (and surely some new ones).

I play a game, because it either has innovative gameplay or a really good story. So far, I don't know of either in Oblivion. I didn't really check though, when I heard half of my class going fanboy over the game I already had enough.

Well, for the gameplay: It really won't differ that much from Morrowind and although Morrowing had some great ideas, it was boring like hell. Walking from one town to another could've taken you a week. I hope they made the walking speed faster. And beside that flaw the game had nothing more to offer than every other "Dungeon Crawler" (what I mean are first-person RPGs).

As for the story: I've played Morrowind for a long time and besides the intro, I never caught a glimpse of the main story. :/

So, either Oblivion will be really good considering the story (I don't have many hopes for the gameplay) or it will get a "no-go" from me.

And before anyone starts arguing with me:
It's just my opinion. Other than various people around here, I'm tolerant towards other ideas and don't want everyone to have specifically my opinion.

If however someone wants to convince me, that Oblivion is indeed great, go ahead.
Just don't go "Oblivion is great! You're teh sucks!!". I won't really take that as a reason :P

I don't know, did you play the game so you have all the answers?

There is a main quest line in Morrowind, which you automatically follow (it's the Blades-trail), but there are very many side-quests and every guild offers its own quest-line. So, you can play for weeks without following the main quest, but you can also finish to game in a couple of days if you forget about all the other quests.

Morrowind has it's flaws and certainly isn't the best RPG ever written, but it's vast, detailed and has given (and still gives) me hours of fun (too many hours in fact :) ). That's why I'm looking forward to Oblivion :ok:

The eye-candy is also nice :whistle:

That's the problem, although I followed the main story somehow, I never really knew I was.

And yeah, I can catch one for many hours, that's true. I played it for some time until I finally gave up ;)

@Tulac:
Read my last few lines and shut up, thank you.

Yes I did, I never said you suck or whatever, I just sayed it's impossible to judge (any) game before it even came out...

How can you make an opinion about the game that hasn't come out yet?

And don't tell me to shut up, ever...

When I was playing, i skipped most of the important talking bits, and never found out there was an actual story until the end. The end being when my computer crashed (stupid computer :ranting: ) I had only finished the bit with the puzzle box when it crashed, but before that i had gone right round all the towns and funky landmarks and all, got a seriously massive arsenal of weapons and armour, suitable for any situation, which i had stored in 3 houses in the starting village (forgot the name), filled any remaining space up with tonnes of useless items (horder :bleh: ), and completed a very large chunk of side quests (im not sure how many there were so i cant make an estimate, but id done alot of them). And then tragedy struck. But anyway life goes on, eh? :cry:

It's never too late to start again :D

I installed that game twice and both times I failed to get hooked ot play it more then for couple hours. :blink:

Ok, bought it.
Must say, a bit over-hyped, but still worth the wait.
If you had to ask me, a nine out of ten.

It isn't as confusing as before, but when that d00d voiced by that freak Picard in Star-Feces or whatever it was got his azz beaten out the hizzy, I was all like WTF.

Or in other words, interesting plot comes into play almost as soon as the game starts. :P

Oh, just noticed most of you guys don't get this game till later.
AAHHAAHHAAH!! Go USA!

:cry: It won't be released in NL until the 24th... I'm a bit jealous... Off course, I'm still broke at the release date and don't see any room in my budget for the next couple of months to spend €50 on the Collector's Edition :ranting:
Maybe it'll be 'Nice Price' by the time I'm getting it :crazy:

Yeah man, the price is crazy, who decided that 360 games should cost 60 dollars? I look at the PC one and it was only 50 (this is all US). Since I bought the Collector's Edition for the 360, I spent 70 dollars.
And that's alot!

Must say, a bit over-hyped....

You mean, the fact that every day for the last month saw a new interview, preview, group of screenshots or trailer, seemed just a bit over the top? :D ;)

It was an understatement, and it was purposely done so, haven't ever heard someone make a statement like that?

Well, if you're going to play it with the hype in mind you are going to be horribly dissapointed, because it isn't the holy grail of all entertainment ever conceived.
It is a good game though :P

Yeah i know, i just couldnt be stuffed doing it all over again. :yawn:

its same here btw ;)


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03.02.06 - Oblivion to Ship March 20
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has gone to gold master. Look for it in stores in North America and Europe beginning the week of March 20. Read the full release here.[/quote]

Well, it's just like saying that Morrowind is a better looking Daggerfall :not_ok:
Of course the graphics are better, it's a new game and a one with a good engine.
The game isn't in stores yet, wait until you've actually played the game and then, if you still don't like it, say it's a bad copy of Morrowind.
I liked Morrowind, it can be played endlessly or you can do all the main quests and finish it.
I hope Oblivion will be even better then Morrowind. :ok:

Well, it's just like saying that Morrowind is a better looking Daggerfall :not_ok:
Of course the graphics are better, it's a new game and a one with a good engine.
The game isn't in stores yet, wait until you've actually played the game and then, if you still don't like it, say it's a bad copy of Morrowind.
I liked Morrowind, it can be played endlessly or you can do all the main quests and finish it.
I hope Oblivion will be even better then Morrowind. :ok: [/b][/quote]
*sigh* why do people just ignore what I say....

Of course I can't say that the game is bad before I played it, but I think that it is bad (well, not bad, just not special). It is MY opinion and NO GIVEN FACT and I never saw it as one. I can't say you're wrong as much as you can't say I'm wrong.

Geesh.

No you can't think it is bad, you can think it will be bad...

Other way is illogical...

Depends on the point of view. If the game was still in development, "will be bad" would surely be right. But since the game is already gone gold I can think that it is bad, although I never played it. But since I will play it one way or another someday, I surely will form a new opinion about the game someday.

Till then, it remains as it is.

Oh, btw, was there ever a demo released?

Nope. Only about 300 megs of teasers though :P

I don't think there ever was a Morrowind demo, so I guess no Oblivion demo as well :(

Edit: but one can only hope!

Well IMO it makes no sense for the game to have a demo, since it's so big...

Would be nice to play one of the side-quests or something in a limited world, so one can make a first image of gameplay, battles, conversations, graphics and stuff.

Just like the X3-Demo. It made me realize that this game confuses me way too much LOL

he probably mean that pure engine is too big, and you cant have "limited" version of engine ;)

I would find it kind of strange if they had to make borders in the demo to limit the content. :)

If you want to play a demo to see if it's too complex there's no need.
It's already more simplistic than the other games in the series.

Maybe they could do like a new little island or cave or something thats not in the game, just so you can get a basic idea of graphics, gameplay etc, and it doesnt even ruin the game or anything coz its not actually in it. :)

How so? Just curious. From what I've heard (I should be getting the game today), they've tightened up the economics to make it tougher to make a fortune; that was ridiculously easy in MW. And they've slowed down the advancement rates on some skills, as well. They've also added leveled lists to item finds, so there will be no more level 5 players discovered glass helmets and the like as random treasure drops. None of this makes the game sound easier.

Easier is something different from simpeler.
They did take out quite a few skills and effects, and added a lot of features to appeal to a larger audiance. The fast travel ability and the compass are examples.
I don't mind. The TES series is usually as complex, deep and immersive as you want it to be. I'll play in my own style, as I love being able to. :)

By the way, apparently you can't name saves in Oblivion. That's a strange move, one I do mind :blink:

Guess who just got it? WOOHOOO!!!

Grrrr... Must... kill... get... game... :pissed: :butcher:

...omg...after playing it for...a lot...its sooooooo awesome....soooo coool.... :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... :tai: :( :blow:

Isn't it narrated by Patrick Stewart?

He does the voice of the king, but the king dies in like the first 20(?) minutes, but I'm not sure if he continues to do voicing after that.

Damn you Moogle :angry:

[pretending not to care that much mode]
Ah well, I've still got Tribunal and Bloodmoon to finish...:whistle:
[/pretending not to care that much mode]

I'm sorry, Reup. But hey! Guess who just got the call that he can collect his Oblivion CE? :D

I don't care :whistle: No sir, don't care at all :whistle:
Nope. No problem. :whistle:

:wall: :wall: :wall:

Well i'm buyin it in CE and i even spent 2516 $ too buy a new pc for him well a flat screen too but yeah i have been waiting for this game for some years now(atleast it feel's like some years.)


http://northq.com/img/pics/nq2100_01_640.jpg
The Pc Case :? only mine has green neon light

user-tuned cases are waaaay cooler :bleh:

Wow Moogle.
Nice way to spoil the plot for everyone else.

Jesus, I've played it for more than twenty hours and you already detail that one of the most important characters in TES is killed.

I think he dies after the intro, so he's dead in your game as well :)

I didn't say I didn't know that.
But it's a massive plot twist, and the character is a major one.

I'm saying Moogle ruined it for everyone else :P

He doesn't die in the intro, you play for a bit and then he dies, kinda like a interlude gameplay part.

Ah okay. I'll probably have forgotten this by the time I'm actually going to play the game :)

But then again, maybe I'll just go visit Doublers house one night and steal his copy :ph34r:

Or you can kindly ask him to borrow it once his done with it...

Oh wait, you'll probably buy the game before that :bleh:

WOW

Ok, I'm not gonna even bother to get into this but I will say this.

Are you seriously complaining because I said the king died? It tells you in the opening cutscene, "my last day", its on the BENTHEDSA WEBSITE, its in almost any preview that tells you about the basic story line, its pretty much everywhere, except on the back of the box.

Well guess what, there ARE people that didn't know, so don't spoil it for em. :P

I know, I just don't see why you had to get all pissy about it
:tomato:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20060324.jpg

OMGOMGOMG i just got it in CE HEll YEAH!!!! or is it OBLIVION YEAH!

Duh uh! They'r playing the 360 version...losers.
LOL.

Well, Tycho is a huge fan of the Elder Scrolls games... they just like to make fun of the pacing and such of the games.

"I had it in my head for some reason that the 360 version would attract me, but in practice this was not the case - I just can't play it with a gamepad, and graphically it's hard not to prefer it on the PC. I really respect what they've accomplished, and I hope that it eventually gets a firm grip on me. That hasn't happened yet, though I feel like the raw materials are here. My greatest foe has thus far been something I've mentioned before, what I've begun to call "opportunity paralysis.""

~ Tycho

There's practically no difference on the 360 one other than the gamepad, and the graphics.

I own the 360 version and I love it because I can get achievements on X-Box Live, which is way better than anything on the PC.
In fact, I think just trying to get achievements over X-Box Live is too much of a life-sucker, I need to cut down before I stop neglecting my peeps.

Yo holla out to yall there. :P

Yeah like me. Darn you moogle! (shake fist)

I know, I read their article :)

W00t, level 6.

^LOL me too.

And I must say. It's Morrowind with all the flaws fixed! Gorgeous graphics (view distance!! :kosta: ), gameplay and immersion!


Recommended if your computer can handle it!

just wanted to ask... what are the min requirements? Because screenshots look awesome!!!

What problems/flaws did Morrowind have?

the right thread (it was first, and it's in the right subforum)
the wrong thread. (it's in the wrong subforum)

well, for one, the scripting system was awful. as a result the world didn't feel alive at all.

It is costly fix here (50 bucks for regular version and 60 bucks for collectors version of the game)...

Will wait...

(I got Morrowing with my video card :) - THat was nice deal :))

I am "sharing" it. Hopefully the sharing will end soon. We need to share more! :D

:w00t:
I have just sent my husband to get it!
But I'm buying the XBOX 360 version although my PC could handle it.

iam definitely with 1ce why dont you post in original topic? <_<
http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9782

I have the CE VErsion And it rocks!!!!

Well practicly the guys in oblivion aren't scripted....it's radient Ai Wich is so Much Better.

Another big morrowind problem was the collision detection... I've lost many a character to getting stuck in signs and walls.

That's no more in Oblivion? Great, cause I had many save games which were named nasty words big os of that bug :/
*wubs levitation potion*

I always end up panicking and trying everything to get out... many times, I accidently "rest" and save over old games. Hurrah.

Most of my games end that way, with a half naked man dressed as Tarzan and a lost woman following me, and I go to a sign to see where to go, get closer so I can read it, try to turn away and find I'm stuck in the sign with two buffoons standing on the road staring at me.

There's a console command "fixme" for those situations.

The NPCs were another thing that Bethesda didn't like about Morrowind. As I haven't got Oblivion, I'll have to just guess that they've improved it. The return of buyable houses sounds like a brilliant addition, as it's a feature I loved in Daggerfall.

Thanks, I figured I was boned.

Too bad I found that out when I patched the game and it didn't happen so often.. (or I learned not to try to go through every small passage that I thought I could)

Best. Game. Ever.

I'll pick it up when I get a 360, see what all the fuss is about.

:ot:

Sob - my cheap temporary stand-in graphics card is too crummy to run Oblivion :(

Methinks my motherboard upgrade might have to be brought forward...

LMAO OMFG
Oblivion : Hot Cofee
No pics.

Pc > Xbox

Mmm.
I'm on a really weird quest right now.
Won't spoil it for you guys :P
Oh, and riding horsies is real damn fun.

On the contararie, horsies are a pain.
Turning while running (as in non trot mode) is a pain.

Anyone ever looked one of the horses straight in the eye? Well, I still got the horse from the Prior "whateverwashisname" and he has this strange big eye, that looks like it was transplated from a Argonian or a frog or something. Dunno if all horses have these.

Scary.

Is it in Australia yet? :blink: I havent seen it in shops yet, but i havent been in Knox in a while...

Knox?

And I do believe it is available here.

What are the min system requirements?

couhlazycough

It's a fun game, but the graphics are notched too high for the full effect, and I miss all the 200+ mods I ran in Morrowind. In fact, many of the things I liked best about Morrowind were actually do to those player mods. :D

Bah, you're just terrible at it.
Or maybe it's just my amazing 360 controller... mmm, comfy.

...its the controller.

Turning is better w/ a stick.

You still run into trees and stuff, but you get used to it.
Now I can gallop around in a forest without running into random things.

I think I run faster than I do using a horse anyways...

It looks like it, but then I started to realize that one location took me five minutes more time to traverse than a horse, so I kept using the horsie.

Riding Horises doesn't up your skills tho :P
Although certain hills are a frickin pain, spent half an hour just trying to get up the hill to the city, rawr.

Riding horsies is fun.
Doesn't it look stupid when the ragdoll effects kick in when you kill someone on a flight of stairs?
Me and my friend laughed at a ragdoll cascade that occured when about four or five orcs chased us up a flight of stairs, and then they all fell down from a nice magic spell and piled up quite homosexually at the bottom.

LOL.
Yeah :)

What's your current equipment/character/skills Moogle?

I got a preset Thief that has a bunch of skill points in pick-pocketing and backstabbing and stuff :P
My favorite weapon is a funky Ice Dagger.
The coolest thing about Oblivion is that backstabbing actually depends on you sneaking up on a person, like, Metal Gear Solid or something. :ph34r:

I have 2...

A hand to hand conjuration / alchemy / stealth / security / destruction / athletics / acrobatics (?) / light armor summoner *custo class)

And a destruction magic using blade warrior.

Looks like you're prolly good at killing lots of crap, but looking at your favorite skills I'm thinking that if a big monster got his hands on you then you'd be unable to stand up with him pyshically.

My thief has some decent Medium Armor skills and pretty high health-points.
He's a sort of thief/warrior mesh.

Mmmm, maybe.
Thats why I stock up on potions :P

Bluddy hell one gig of RAM recommended... :eeeeeh: Im screwed...

who isn't...

when i saw the screenshots i thought "WOW!!!!! This would be worth buying..."

then i saw the requirements. i thought "Oh, crap...wish i had a better computer..."

That's why I have to wait...

First computer upgrade and then buy the game (at half the price if possible :D)

Merged this topic with the one in Blah Blah Blah, really Maikel you should know better :whistle: .

Anyway, I hope there will be a demo for this one. I want to see how my computer handles it before investing €60.

Ban Him! :D LOL

I didn't really thought I could expect much graphic-wise from my computer, but I was surprised how well everything looks.

Have problems with my crappy soundchip though.

In a couple of weeks things will be different I think:

1) Prices will be down a couple of €€€
2) More people have tried the game, so in fora all over the internet should you find people playing on different configs. There's bound to be someone playing on one similar to yours (or NOT playing if the specs are too low...).

But I do agree with you that a demo could solve all this insecurity...

I didn't really thought I could expect much graphic-wise from my computer, but I was surprised how well everything looks.

Have problems with my crappy soundchip though. [/b][/quote]
What are your specs?

I have XP2800+ with 512MB ram and 64MB video card (NVidia GForce)

While I like rpg games and my pc can easily run this one at full details etc, I am not sure I should buy it. It costs "just" 24GBP from play.com but.....I played morrowind about a year ago (never before) and though interesting and big, something did not feel right. I wish I could be more specific. I am just worried that if I buy this game I will get bored with it in an hour or 2.
Now, if there was going to be a new Arcanum or Fallout, yeah!

Did you play this one?

Hmm, it says it is only for xbox and ps2, in which case, no I haven't. There is a similar titled game for the PC, which is a mix of rpg and mostly tactical game. That I have played but the linearity did not do much for me.

You mean Fallout Tactics. It took me a while to find that game last year, and finaly when I did, I did not have any time to play it... Still have to finish couple of GIP (Games in Progress :D) and then I will pay some attention to that game. :)

What 64 mb is tat even possible.

That game is "okay" (bought it for four dollars :P) but it doesn't belong in the Fallout series.

What 64 mb is tat even possible. [/b][/quote]
Huh?

Lawl, he must behind the times, because my card is over 256.

Yes,
it is about the time to create new computer (not to upgrade existing one)!

Well, the card I wanted is a bit pricy, so I will have to go for something cheaper. But that would be a completely different topic.

One question I liked to ask those who got Oblivion. What kind of play options do you hav? (Single or Multiplayer or both)

What are your specs?

I have XP2800+ with 512MB ram and 64MB video card (NVidia GForce) [/b][/quote]
I have the same processor, but 1 GB of RAM and a ATI Radeon X850 (256 MB).

I kinda guessed my comp could handle it, but I was mainly surprised, because F.E.A.R., with equally awesome graphics, wasn't really playable (too high specs lag to much and to low specs really hurt my eyes and destroyed the atmosphere)

With Oblivion having the same awesome graphics, or even better I never thought it would run so well.

Singeplayer, but X-Box live has Achievements, which gives you awards for completing certain tasks or setting records.

ugh wish they made of of these RPG's with coop mode. i mean what is cooler than to create a party of 3 with your friends and then explore the unknown world?? it could be limited to maybe 4 persons max (like in frist two Doom series).

I played Diablo 2 only multiplayer (with my bro) and we enjoyed it very much. But that's 3rd person view. wish i had a game like this one, Morrowind or Arx Fatalis, but coop mode. It would be much more fun. Especially if the "party" could separate and do their objectives separatelly. also taking on large monsters is really more fun in a group. or to solve puzzles and use some brainstorming while at it.

That's whats WoW or Everquest for??

nah WoW has too many other people playing it and needs to be payed for constantly.

Yeah I'll buy it as soon as my parents let me play video games again. :ranting:

I came back to say that I'm surprised that no one mentioned the level scaling. Borodin kind of touched on it by mentioning "no more glass helmets at level 5", because that is an aspect of it. The whole world levels with you. When you're level 1, everyone has fur armour and iron shortswords, but when you start to get higher, petty bandits start brandishing stronger gear and become stronger themselves. It gets crazy. Eventually they start using dwarven and daedric equipment. And since every part of the gameworld scales, you can save your behind from these glass sword wielding brigands by running to the nearest town and having the farmers punch them out, which causes them to loot the bodies and start tending their fields with said glass swords.

It's the game's biggest flaw. I consider it game killing. The last game that did a similar thing was FINAL FANTASY VIII. Wow. Bethesda took their inspiration for this feature from a Japanese console RPG. Way to go, guys.

There are plug-ins to kill it, though, and speaking of plug-ins, can you believe that Bethesda is selling such a small amount of content? A little tower and a quest for two dollars American? As if.

Also annoying is the Radiant AI. Apparently jerky and mechanical conversations where wives and husbands talk as if they are casual acquaintences meeting in the marketplace is a huge advancement.

But with the mod to kill the scaling, it's a damn fun game. Right now I have a level 5 Dunmer Spellsword, and a level 2 Argonian Thief. I deleted all my old characters upon starting to use the mods.

Without the scaling, doesn't the game become a bit too easy? I am afraid that if I use this mod I will end up doing some difficult quests and only having to fight thiefs/goblins etc with swords of lvl1 something while I am lvl 10 (for example).

Well, the mod I am using has an option to change the main and guild quests somewhat, adding higher powered monsters and adding a chance to spawn a boss monster (a level 8 boss monster will be level 8 and drop appropriate loot no matter what your level is) them, regardless of character levels. I believe this is handled by giving these quests their own levels instead of having your character's level be the deciding factor.

What is the mod called?

It's number 9 on this list: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...es.Detail&id=41

I think with this plug-in, the bandits and goblins themselves still scale, but much slower, and they don't get daedric weapons. I could be wrong, though.

Also, there's a mod there to add variety to wilderness monsters. No more just goblins and bandits. I think it's incompatibile with the no-scaling mod, however.

The mod I use to de-scale loot leveling is G_'s Oblivion Loot mod. He offers two versions, one that rescales more reasonably, and one that descales it. I've got the second one running. It offers a Morrowind-like system where you stand an increasingly slim chance of finding anything considerably above your level every time you check for loot. So while you won't end up getting that World Killer Sword, you could potentially get a nice mace that's magicked to destroy armor, or an ebony dagger, or a pair of mithril boots even at level 5. There's reason to keep on hunting, in other words--though repopulating the dungeons every few days with creatures leveled to you is still a big turn off.

I have to say I agree with MasterGrazzt's disgust at leveled items. It's implemented so unrealistically that even merchants sell only goods at your level, and the random goods you find in respawning barrels, chests, etc, do this, as well. These really draw attention to themselves everytime you make a level. Could anything be less subtle than every arms merchant in the land suddenly selling you Dwarven items, or one out of five chests you find containing a gold nugget where they never did, before?

Yeah, Francesco's mod actually extends the respawn time from 3 days to 30. I get the repopulation idea, that eventually, bandits would come back to a good ambush spot, but 3 days is a bit ridiculous.

My first "home" in Morrowind was simply a bandit-infested cave that I cleared out. Really nice, and gave me a sense of purpose. As you note, 30 days seems possible--but 3 days...? I almost expect to see bandits waving at you as you leave a cave, saying something like "We'll be going to the city for a nice bender, then. See you Monday!" :not_ok:

Where was that cave Borodin?
Was it the one really early near Seyda Neen?

I've gotten around a bit in Oblivion, and since I owned it before most people (:P) I've been able to get my character's lock-picking skill really high.

Of course, when I found the Skeleton Key, it made it all useless, but I still like the satisfaction of knowing the timing of how to pick a lock.

Cor im so sick of this game already. :ranting: I hired an xbox 360 from the video shop with this game, but the stupid video shop didnt include a way of saving the game. I always thought all xboxs had inbult harddrives, but the 360 didnt, so i couldnt actually save the damn thing :angry: So every time i died I had to back to the bloody start. And im absolutely sick to the teeth of having to go through those caves under the city with the stupid king. Grrr sorry this is kinda :ot: but i needed somewhere to release my anger. :angry: While im here i may as well ask do you have to do all that on the PC version as well?

All that what?

Well, yes, it's kind of important to the plot. The main difference would be that you CAN save it after that...

Ah, they screwed you with the Core system, I see.

And yes, you do have to go through that, but you can save during it and after.

Core system? :blink: Whats that mean? is there two different xbox 360's? ack :tai: oh well whatever they gave me they sure screwed me good. :angry: I reckon thats put me off xboxs for a while. ill wait it out for the PS3, and until then try and get a hold of Oblivion on PC. And some more RAM... :cry:

core has no hard drive

you was sucka'd good, sucka

Shhhhhh... :whistle:

haha if you cant cope with the fact that the game levels with you then your doing something seriously wrong. You have to "work" the system that means get a extremely high STR and END to stay alive (make a nord and pick major skills that you can level up on command) I like the way this game is compared to how retarded morroWALK felt... morrowalk had way to much walking and i never could touch on the real game plot it seemed so dull and the fact that you could get full glass armor instantly at a low level annoyed me. sheesh might as well turn on the ~ key and start spawning full deadric armor and weapons. not to mention the sit and swing tactic morrowalk had... soo boring

I'm a bit annoyed they removed some things, spears, enchantment, flying spells, pauldrons
But i like how they added medium armor into light armor trees, ooh and the new fighting system is really fun. I got 50 in blade skill and i can knock weapons and shields outta peoples hands and pick them up! that means they got there fists.

I currently have a lvl 8 Dark Elf (yeah i know i shoulda made a nord) with 80 END


Anyone know how to do "two sides of the coin" quest without going to jail?

EDIT: I have the pc version xcrate 360 can FOAD

it wasn't that i couldn't handle it

it's that it's stupid and retarded


i also miss pauldrons and flying

but self-enchantment just allowed you to instantly win the game, no challenge at all

besides it wasn't in daggerfall and daggerfall was completely perfect

so yeah

Daggerfall is certainly not completely perfect :blink:

Very good yes, but it had more then enough flaws of it's own.

haha if you cant cope with the fact that the game levels with you then your doing something seriously wrong. You have to "work" the system that means get a extremely high STR and END to stay alive (make a nord and pick major skills that you can level up on command)

In other words, "We give you your choice of endless ways to advance, but only if you do it one way, our way, will you be able to succeed." Sure, makes sense. :whistle: By contrast, Morrowind let you take your time advancing, and correspondingly you could choose a number of ways to progress.

I like the way this game is compared to how retarded morroWALK felt... morrowalk had way to much walking...

I take it you never did discover either the Mark/Recall spells, or the stiltriders, or the mage guild teleportals? ;)

...and i never could touch on the real game plot it seemed so dull and the fact that you could get full glass armor instantly at a low level annoyed me.

Of course, you didn't have to steal it, but then, you couldn't resist doing so, could you? :D

It comes down to de gustibus: each to their own. Personally, I like both games, but I admit that Morrowind seems to slightly superior to me because of its lack of Nazi advancing ("you WILL advance now...") and treasure leveling ("we can't even show you what we'll have for sale in 2 levels, much less let you buy it").

Daggerfall was REALLY boring, I thought it was incredibly overrated.
Morrowind and Oblivion are better, heck, Battlespire and Arena are more fun than Daggerfall in my opinion.

I fell waaay too many times through the floor in Daggerfall to enjoy it at all, buggy game.

True you could get still get stat points by level skills after is says you could level up its just Oblivion restricts that now.


Yeah i did use all of those i just found a bug in the game that gave me 680 speed permanantly. You know the blinding boots of speed well lets say that bugged up when i took them off. so it gave me a rather funny high speed. it was full of antics it looked like i was flailing my arms when i ran

I steal every pot and pan i get my hands on! :Brain:


Speaking of dagger fall i think we own a real cd of it somewhere it doesnt work anymore :cry:
and i remember playing it when i was little

that was why it was perfect

it introduced a complex fantasy universe with it's own set of physics

'Mystical features'
*Puts head in hands*

I'm guessing (hoping) you're playing sarcasm, MasterGrazzt :P

True you could get still get stat points by level skills after is says you could level up its just Oblivion restricts that now.

No "just" about it. It's the difference between wandering around and leveling up at your own rate in Morrowind, or finding that you've maxed out long before you've seen even 20% of the dungeons and surface of Cyrodil. That's the reason slow-leveling mods are so popular, too.

Yeah i did use all of those i just found a bug in the game that gave me 680 speed permanantly. You know the blinding boots of speed well lets say that bugged up when i took them off. so it gave me a rather funny high speed. it was full of antics it looked like i was flailing my arms when i ran

Well, then, why complain that Morrowind had so much walking? :D Most of us didn't use an exploit, and we found there was very little walking involved, unless you wanted to complete some quest (just as you have to do in Oblivion), or gather alchemical ingredients (same).

All in all, I think that MW had some severe problems of its in, it got game balance a lot closer to what it should be than Oblivion. But I still have hopes for the latter, based on player-made mods.

I don't get this, and it is the reason I have no stopped playing for a while Oblivion. What is the point of having everybody increasing level with you? I spend hours exploring, learning and fighting to gain a freaking level only to find out that everybody else has also increased in level. I mean, if this is how it is going to be, I might as well just solve the main quest, and as soon as I do that never play the game again. It sounds like an adventure game than RPG. It has really put me off the game.
:not_ok:

Well ofcoarse im going to play the game the first time through as the "power gamer"
after i beat it ill go find some find mods to play it with. Like the one MasterGrazzt speaks of :D
It doesnt matter how you play it just have while you do it whether it be with mods or not. Like in morrowind when it got dull i started adding some mods like the Bo Bo fet bounty hunters

Sorry for the Off Topic, but where can you find these spells, no one in the mages guild has it (at least the ones I checked) and I have certain problems with the Dunmer temple...

In the Vivec Mages Guild, head left from the teleportation portal, go through a door there somewhere and you should find an altmer clothed like an Ashlander. She has both Mark and Recall iirc.

So how many have won the main quest?

I Have.

problem i see is walking is too slow. nothing else. i actually like adventuring.
I don't like the start. but once you get some level it's a bit better.

Another spell that io susefully is Jump. i made one which increases my jump to 100 for 3 sec. not exactly the Icarus spell but you can still jump over mountains with it. oh

i also find this site - spell search - very helpful:

http://www.thejamessite.com/morrowin...pellsearch.htm

The thing is at first i didnt' knwo spells are so cheap and efficient. somehow i always ended up with seeing the expencive ones.

where is the easy to get glass armor in Morrowind?

The stupid bug i seemed to get In morrowing is i went to this quest (i thought it will just be by the way) where i had to kill all of tanoga smth (smuglers) in Balmora by the order of one legion commander form nearby fort.

So i killed them all. my crime was offcourse reported. the guards came after me. at first i was thinking what now? so i thougth maybe the guy that ordered me to do it will calm them all down. so i ran, went to his office and indeed. he said he will take care of it with his friends.

i step out of the fort and one of the guardas attacks me. i was shocked. so i ran at first but he caught up with me and we did battle in wilderness. i killed him. and now in almoust every town i go guards attack me (btw i am on the main quest). funny thing is only a few of them were attacking me at first. like one out of 4 or something. and in some towns like Ebonheart or Gnisis they don't attack at all. but in caldera they are all over me and when i kill them they somehow respawn. why are they attacking me? it must be some bug. since my level has risen far i am now trying a new "method" having fun with them. i calm them down and charm them.

The stupid hting is i am in the legion. ok only a spearman but still. and not to mention i fdont' ahve any bounty on my head. so it must be a bug.

I found what i belive was a glitch in the game when i was playing Morrowind, that allowed me to travel super fast and it was quite close to the start. Ive kinda forgotten hwo it went, but there was this woman who had the boots of blinding speed or something. She was on a road and rather close to the start of the story, and she wanted an escort i think to a nearby city. in the end she i think she was ome kind of criminal, and you had to kill her anyways. Now, these boots added like 200 points to your speed, but apparently the whole screen was supposed to blacken as if 'blinded', but for some reason my screen was only slightly darkened. My friend who was also playing said he got the boots but his screen went completly black. Im not sure if it was a glitch i think it was, but at any rate these boots helped me get through alot of the game at nealy 3 times the normal speed. did anyone alse find thse?

yeah i read about few glitches... and also the thing is that once you know the location of good artifacts you can easilly get the game looses it's fun a bit. still it's good if you have specific goal and character creation. Kind of like the Pricess maker.

i think i saw that woman but i was traveling in opposite direction, so i denied her request. later when i tried again you can't accompany them anymore. at least i dont' know how to mkae them offer me the same quest again. i wonder why is that so. why if you deny the quest (dont' have the time right now) you can't take it again.

Also maybe a bit too many dungeons or hole. it would be better to have a it more cities.

I've stopped playing that game.....cant find anymore quest.....







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I have the Imperial Dragon Armor but it wasn't as good as deadra so i went into the Construcion set and made it better! Which just owned than i to The Chorrol shield and made him better Because he looked good with the Imperial Dragon Armor.

Oh god i got that game 4 days ago and it's just amazing !
The only major downside is that it is a BIG life-drainer.

Sorry for the off topic, but I couldn't help noticing that the game Daggerfall was mentioned, as a bugged up game. Did anyone ever do the dress-up-in-red-and-white-fly-your-horse-through-town-and-leave-presents-on-roofs routine the last month each year, around the 24th-25th? :santa: LOL

Anyway, back on topic.