Scary news

Just imagine you were sitting next to that guy, witnessing everything...
scary indeed

Those police officers did something completely uncalled for and aggressive.

It's also really stupid, if he really had a bomb, you wouldn't shoot him.

Depend on the bomb, really.

Very few bombs explode by gunshots. The only ones that explode by shooting the bomber are bombs triggered by a handheld ignator that the bomber holds, or the kind where you have two liquids in seperate glass canisters, that will explode when they mix (i.e. hit the floor).


Anyways...
This is plain assassination. Those policemen should be thrown in jail immediately.

What I find very scary is that all those people who LIED when they said he was running and wearing some heavy coat. Why did they lie? Did they lie? Why did the police officers kill him? Perhaps the brazilian guy was banging one of the officer's wife or something? No matter what, it does look like assasination or murder and the witnesses are also guilty, I guess.
Thumps up to ITV for revealing this info.
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why did the guy run?

Cause he wuz gonna get shot.
Actually I have no clue.

Why do people start running?

Could be a zillion different reasons. Sometimes I just start running cause I feel like running. Other times because I am late.... many reasons.

well, it's sad, but if seemed like the guy was running away from the police, so <shrug> Life blows :ok:

Well from what I heard on the news he started running because he had some work-tools with him and he was working as a handy-man (without a work permit).

Look - were he a real terrorist the newspapers would still be printing about the heroic Bobbies who stopped him from blowing up another target killing dozens. Now they can't write about that, so they found something else. I'm tired of the news-hounds. Yes - the police might have killed a completely inoscent man for no reason at all, but that's not for just any newspaper to decide.

I mean, just what is this information that leaked through and prooved beyond doubt that Mendez was already overpowered and shot in cold blood at point blank range?
Come on - that's too much to believe.

wow. You guys get news late.
We got this news a few weeks ago. He apparently ran because he had an out of date visa or the like when asked to stop and ran.

Apparently, but that's not for sure. The truth is in the security footage, where you can see if he ran away or not

Either none of you read that article or I didn't read it properly.
He did NOT run. He was sitting there inside the train when he just stood up. He didn't run away or anything like that. But all the witnesses said that he did. See the problem?

Unless of course I missed the part that he run away. (in this article)

So it's just this article that says he didn't run - while the witnesses say he did. So they found some spy satelite fotage saying he didn't run?

Unless I know 100% for sure that he didn't run and was brutally killed in cold blood - I won't believe the article.

Apparently there is ITV (UK) footage showing that, but I don't have it.

That's the proof, but you won't find the footage if the police wanna cover up what has happened.

Well at least the papers claiming to know the truth should provide this pictures. I mean - otherwise it's just a word of a scandal-and-big-headlines-hungry jurnalist vs. a word of a killed-an-innocent-man policeman. Now who to trust?

*sigh*
We truly live in dangerous and evil times.

c'mon..it's not that bad, 't was only one guy and it was his fault...who can be stupid enough to run from the police when they are looking for a bomber?
answer:apparently he was.So this is not scary, this is stupid.
you wanna hear something scary? well..
about a week ago a guy got drunk and wanted to get into his house...apparently he went in the wrong way and ended up at another door.Some neighbours got scared and called the police.The police came and thought he was a robber.they were caught on tape assaulting him brutally.near the police headquarter's ( :P) steps he was dragged face downd on the sidewalk untill his skull was cracked...he ended up in the hospital and now he's dead.
why is this scary?cause i can be in the same situation...good thing i don't get drunk often.

It is bad because this is a result from fear.
Besides, whatever the risk, no one should just be shot. Even IF the police are looking for a bomb, and the suspect runs away. The question wether or not the man was innocent at second glance doesn't really matter. Such things only help to spread the fear created, and create all kinds of tensions.
Life is not some sort of movie in which some heroic police officer has to stop the evil terrorists, no matter the costs.

And how on Earth could that man have known that the police thought he was a bomber?

EDIT: Ok, what I'm trying to say is that using thuggish methods is not a real solution; in fact it'll worsen the situation. The fact that it is understandable does not change this.

The point of that article was that the guy WAS NOT RUNNING! He was just sitting there!
Just read it once!

Sounds like the universe might be trying to get even for all of the people killed by drunk drivers.

Its really sad to hear of things like this. This is one of those effects that come from terrorism. Its always fascinating to hear how the police can get away with things like that. :not_ok:

While here in norway a couple of officers where taken under strong supervision and investigation after having to shoot to disable a shotgun-armed . The guy had broken into a store for hunting and such, came out of the store with a rifle.
The officers had shot him in the leg when he ignored the order to drop the gun, and instead tried to aim at them. :eeeeeh:

We live in troubled times...

basically this was a mistake of overzealous cops who were on high edge due to the bombings. They mistook this person for a terrorist (and I havent' seen any proof that he even resembled a terrorist at all ) and instantly killed him because they didn't want him to blow up anything.

Being scared of terrorists doesn't give you, especially the police, to gun down anyone they "Think" is a terrorist. There is a little thing called proof, or circumstance that make you think they are.

From what we have heard in the news and what is said to be on the video tape, NOTHING the police said after the incident was even close to the truth, which means they messed up, they knew they messed up, and had PR people on it trying to spin it to a story that wouldn't make them look like scared shoot-first-ask questions later cops.

But the truth is out. The man didn't do what they said he did, he wasn't wearing what they said he was wearing, and he didn't act like they said he acted. He didn't vault any turnstyles, he wasn't wearing a big baggy jacket that might have exposives under it, and he didn't run from police in anyway. It was just a overzealous cop who blew his brains out for what ever passed for coherent thought in the cops head.

The cop should be brought up on murder charges, the victims family paid off, and the matter pushed under the rug.

Here in america in maryland we had a cop that got into a fight at a gas station with another driver. The other driver got in his car and was driving away (no blows were exchanged, no damage done) yet the cop took out his gun and shot the guy dead. So, the cop was put on leave pending an investigation EVEN AFTER dozens of witness's said the cop had no reason to kill the man and that he did it in anger and not during an arrest. After a few weeks the public grew so outraged at the police handling the event they forced the police under pressure to charge the cop with murder. Took weeks of public pressure for the police to do their jobs and actually charge one of their own. Hey, blue sticks up for blue, even bad blue.

If it was an honest mistake then I am not sure if he should be brought to justice for murder, but the very least he should be fired. He sounds like an idiot for jumping to the conclusion that the guy should be shot 8 times in the head. He is just not fit to serve.

At least he doesn't do things halfway. :D

The guy was sat on a train when the cops walked up and blew his head off. He wasn't wearing a long coat as previously claimed by the cops, nor did he run at any point as shown by CCTV footage. In fact he strolled onto the platform, stopped to get a paper and waited for his train before getting on. His crime? He lived in a block of flats where a suspected bomber lived. As it turns out he and the suspected bomber were both entirely innocent. Nice work guys, I'm just glad I don't work in London anymore. I would say that the cops should be charged with manslaughter rather than murder but as they released highly untrue evidence to make the public think it was an honest mistake I really believe they should get charged with murder or at least attempted bullshit in the first degree and manslaughter.

One thing: Don't go to the London underground if you are a Brasilian electrician. You will get killed by cops thinking you are running from them and then they will lie about everything to the media. After the media finds out the truth, they will admit that you was only sitting there in a denim jacket, but your death was necessary to protect the people...

Jeeez! This only twarted me from going to London in my life. I fear the Bobbies will mistake me for a brasilian electrician and shoot me inthe head five times in the underground. I don't want to die like this... :(

well all i can say is "welcome to the New World Order." no one needs to be accountable for anything anymore....the authorities-- that is . and if you do try and make a scene, you`ll just dissapear and we will see you on the back of a milk carton.
:sneaky: so much for human rights....welcome to the system, slaves :evil:

Oh, and we're delaying the investigation for 6 months so you've got plenty of time to forget the whole thing...

The world has turned topsy turvy when England is being accused of using disproportionate and excessive force.

Nah, more like return to the good old days...

I don't think Mr. Straw will like that.

uhh yeah thats why they shot him in the head.

From a foot away...
That dun make much sense if you ask me. All explosives have a threshold for abuse, no matter what it is, do something wrong and you could have a accident on your hands.

Also do you know how hard it is to shoot a gun, no matter what distance, at a pinpointed precise spot?

Yes. Well, no, not a hand gun, but a rifle and a machine gun.

Which is not that very difficult when the target is as big as a head (or even a head) and the target is not moving much (other police officers were holding him still). I just don't get it why shoot and hit him in the head more than twice. Perhaps lousy aim is another reason for these people to get fired.

When someone gets shot in the head so many times, you know they wanted him dead really bad :sniper:

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Yes, I still think there is a chance that brazillian was banging one of their wives and that was the reason behind it.

No matter what though kudos to ITV for coming clean.
I just don't get it how all those people in the train agreed to lie.

Shame that the whole thing is being pushed till christmas or something. The system is rotten.

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Its to make sure that they die