Ok, if this turns into a flame fest, I'm sorry. Didn't mean it to be,

Ok....I was just thinking but...should "free" music distribution be legal? I don't mean distribution where you can go and download any song regardless of wheter you pay for it, I mean like "song emulation" for example, supposedly, at least what I've heard, (tell me if I'm wrong) emulation is actually legal because everybody is entitled to a back up copy of a game, so if your able to download some old Nintendo game because your entitled to a back up copy, why can't you do the same with music? Furthermore, emulation lets you play video games that other wise might not work, for example say your old Dreamcast breaks down, and you can't play any of your old, favorite games because Dreamcasts are no longer sold, the same could be said with music, although not as much, I don't know about you, but I still have some old records sitting around with songs that I like, and it would be nice to convert them to MP3 format so I could listen to them on my MP3 player, but my Record player doesn't hook up to my computer, and players are hard to find, because lets face it, records are old and outdated. But, you still paid for the songs right?

Yeah, but it's not too hard to attach a record player to the line in on your soundcard which should let you record them with the right software. As for making backups, what's that got to do with distribution? I have all my CDs on the PC and my mp3 player which is entirely legal, but if i were to distribute them that'd be illegal, same as if i were to copy the CDs and pass them on.

no it would destroy bands and make metallica really angry LOL

Well...
Theoretically some laws actually allow that already. If you hook your radio to the computer (or listen to an online radio station) you are able to make a recording of the song you hear. Basically there is no constant copyright warning on the stuff that's freely distributed (by mass media). So if you'd record something off a radio and then put it up for download that would be border line legal (depends on a country).

Seb is right.



NO.



I'm not going to go into WHY. :max:

strange. clearly no one has told technics or vestax that little gem of wisdom.
or the record shop owners either. or the people responsible for hmvs vinyl section.....
or for that matter the fact that spectral analasis shows vinyl to have a richer bass end. (just it loses it a bit as the record ages)

as for making backups of your records, nice and easy. even a bog standered soundcard has an audio in, just get a twin phono to minijack lead and woohoo. there is freeware out there that will enable you to remove any static crackle noises. although one problem is the lack of phono premap on your average pc soundcard. however creative do a cool little usb thang which is just a phono in with a phono preamp. willset u back 20-30 bucks. +comes with all the recording and restoration software you will need.
another way is to plug your record player into a graphic eq, or use the aux out from your stereo. or use a mixer. if your stereo has an aux out and its a good clean sounding stereo use that rather than plugging straight into your pc and joy shall be yours. also use a clean eq setting when recording. some old records i pitch up a tiny bit on my deck just to make em sound sharper. but thats a case of preference i guess.
as for should emulations be legal, erm, what?
a midi file of an old classical arrangement is legal. an mp3 of a modern recording is not.

MP3 is free. You just have to find it. The thing is many people finds it nowdays. I'm not the one downloading copyrighted music, but there are thousands of mp3 pages I know with free download.
Copyrighted music should stay copyrighted with no download at all(Exept for paypay or creditcard buying). I only download theme musics wich are free and record songs from radio(I have radio tuner in my comp). Why break the law when radio stations play cool music :ok: I like FM4 here. It's an Austian radio station with english and german programs playing alternative and instrumental music.

So all in all, no need for downloading :ok:

There is a huge amount of music that is legally free. Just one source is www.download.com and go to the section MUSIC. There, by genre, you can find perhaps thousands songs or more. I know I have.


BTW, I am thinking of phasing out mp3s. They are now asking developers to get paid to rip into that format. I am already using OGG, so I guess I will switch to that completely, slowly.

Interestingly enough, finding a good record player for less than 500 dollars now is slightly easier than finding a decent CD player.

You must have dug really hard for this thread, it's 6 years old :D

Please try not to necro post in the future :)

It doesn't surprise me that the starting post is flawed from start to finish then... :p

Yeah they should be legalized copy rights are just laws made by the elite to feed their greed!!!!

No, they aren't. The inherent ignorance of your statement is astounding.
If there were no copyright laws, that "elite" of yours would be able simply copy anything you create, use it for their own purposes and don't pay you a dime. Intellectual property - and that means things like literature, music and computer software - would be worthless, and you'd end up with a world where none of these would probably exist at all.

Hey, don't worry too much about it Fifth. Everything in the thread opener post was flawed.

Like stating that if you have a hard copy of a console game, you can have a hacked copy on your computer to use as backup in conjunction with an emulator... That's just crazy talk stupidly taking grounds into an urban myth. Even if we were to factor the "you can have a copy of your good for personal purpose", the copy would need to be made in the same medium than the original object to be valid. Which mean copy the cartridge into another cartridge, to be used on the same medium.

Having console roms on your computer is just illegal whatever way you look at it. It always been and it will always be. What most people think have nothing to do with it.

We could dismantle the whole post point by point like this... But that would really be wasted time.

Both sides are arguable. Things would be different but intellectual creation would not cease to exist, just like it existed during most of human history when no laws regulated it.

1. Massice necropost. How the hell did you find the thread?
2. Get spotify, pay the 10 € / month, listen to it on you iPod/iPhone/Droid
3. 10 € too much? Get a job!
4. Can't get a job? Try harder, pay tax and contribute to the civilization we've created rather then leeching.

:D This managed to rouse everyone's emotions, I see. AGAIN! :hysterical:

Hey, there is an excellent side to this necropost: Titan got to post again! Let's rejoice! XD

Clearly, our only possible action now is to necopost all very old but sensible subject so our "venerable" members get to post again. ;)

Sure did.

I believe MP3 distribution should be legally allowed/free.

Bands/groups make almost all of their money from concerts/performances.

Most musicians make very little as it is. Only big names get massive profits. Even people like Weird Al get a few cents per song. The music companies make all the money. Paul MacCartney can't play the Beatles songs he wrote because Sony owns the rights. Stealing other people's property is still stealing, whether it's their music, their books or their games. If you think about it, royalties are all that's keeping Poul Anderson's widow fed and housed. (His daughter is on my favourite listserv.) If all property is theft, and should be given away for free, what about your stuff? You should let anyone who comes along pick out what they like from your home and walk off with it. The one good thing about the Internet, though, is that there will eventually be no need for huge record companies. Or so I hope. So maybe artists will get that much more income from their own work. Speaking of work -- I haven't gotten any yet. Oh well.