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Kon-Tiki 07-05-2005 09:28 PM

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review

Dreg'atar 07-05-2005 09:55 PM

this is a strange game......never seen a shooting-racing game where you can make a clone of yourself....

a1s 07-05-2005 10:31 PM

it's not a racing game, it's an RPG.
and it's allso L. British at his finest :w00t:

RituroErganesti 07-05-2005 10:57 PM

Awesome awesome awesome awesome!!!! I originally played this on my grandma's old Apple IIe (not black-and-white, but black-and-yellow graphics! Woo!) but accidentally erased it when trying to create a save disk. :whistle: Thank you, team!

COMMENCE THE DOWNLOADING! :Titan:

snowowl0909 08-05-2005 05:36 AM

any idea if there's anything similar to this game (maybe freeware clone of some sort?) that's made more recently?
hasn't seen anything that has the Mad Max style setting to it and the closest thing is Autoduel which in addition to being commercial and undevelopment it's also a MMORPG..:(

Kezz 08-05-2005 10:01 PM

This game makes my floppy drive go completely insane and act like its about to go nuclear :blink:

Tanner 08-05-2005 11:48 PM

This game is soo bad! I'm glad to see it finally made it to this site!

The Duelist 09-05-2005 02:52 PM

I LOVED this game and can not wait to check it out again. What an incredible game. I have been waiting for years to see someone remake this with better graphics. Thank you for bringing this back to life.

Coltyhuxx 09-05-2005 03:20 PM

Autoduel was a hard hard game to get started (for me, at least). It was one of those games I played over and over again, trying to get some salvage out of the Arena and ever so slowly making minimal progress. I remember barely making enough money to recoup the money I'd spent on ammunition. Only once or twice did I make it out to the highway with a decent car. Well, anything you play, even as a youth, with that kind of fervor has got to have something really good going for it. :ok:

TheChosen 10-05-2005 05:43 AM

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any idea if there's anything similar to this game (maybe freeware clone of some sort?) that's made more recently?
There is...Roadwar 2000, and Roadwar 2000:europe. Theyre very similar to this game.Maybe i should post these in the site.....


Anyway, i tought that this game isnt abandonware.

Fruit Pie Jones 10-05-2005 04:28 PM

Holy crap! :blink:
I spent endless hours playing Autoduel on my Apple IIe waaaaaay back in the day! (I had the color monitor, though!) Man, what a fun game! If I recall, I always made far more money in the casino in Atlantic City than I did in the arena. Some of those courier missions were pretty lucrative, though. Like many, I really wish this game would be updated and re-released.

Adam 13-05-2005 09:45 PM

I remember playing this on my brothers atari when i was 7. This game brings back some happy memories and i highly suggest it to any gamer, as long as you dont mind the outdated graphics, but at an abandonware site you can kinda count on that.

Adam

mahwahdenizen 21-05-2005 09:39 PM

I loved this game on the C64 back in the 80's. It's open endedness is what makes it so re-playable.

What's with the ESA protection? :ranting:

I see you guys talking about the games but because of this ESA issue, I can't download it. Any info on this ESA debacle?

Student 01-06-2005 07:23 AM

Do they relly need to hold to old games like leech to theid buts.
I think esa protection to 10 year old games is stupid.
Even if there are sold almost nobody buys them.
Well maybe someone does but who.

LokRobster 03-07-2005 05:25 AM

Does anyone actually have this game? I think it's funny that it's protected but you can't buy it anywhere, from anyone. Origin doesn't exist, and Steve Jackson Games is awesome, but they don't sell this game...

anyway, if anyone's selling a used (or new LOL) version of Autoduel, I'm interested...

*Email removed*
WHEEEE!

Killjoy72 16-07-2005 12:47 AM

I would also be interested in how to get shis...one of my alltime fav games, i cant seem to find this anywhere, contact would be killjoy72@hotmail.com any advice would be appreciated =)

Invid 16-07-2005 05:19 AM

I played this game to fruition way back in 1985 on my old commie 64c. This game was the first of it's kind that I had encountered at the time. It was pure rpg with a classic arcade car war feel. Not since this game has there been a similar title. Carmageddon and GTA have come slightly close but nowhere near as involved or entertaining. This truly is a classic and has stood the test of time, btw where has all that time gone?

Roadwar and Roadwar:Europa didn't have the same feel as Auto Duel so I won't compare them past the fact they're both automotive rpg's. :cheers:

Guest_mike 01-08-2005 07:36 PM

This was one of my favorite games back when I was on an Apple IIc. I used to take a bus to the casino after saving up a little money. If lost my shirt, I would just reload a duped save disk. If you broke the casino bank ($1,000,000) they would kick you out with $666,666.

Steven Brescia 25-08-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by snowowl0909@May 8 2005, 05:36 AM
any idea if there's anything similar to this game (maybe freeware clone of some sort?) that's made more recently?
hasn't seen anything that has the Mad Max style setting to it and the closest thing is Autoduel which in addition to being commercial and undevelopment it's also a MMORPG..:(

The only thing close to this that I've seen is called "Interstate 76" which was made for the Win 95 system. It has a basic story line where you are revenging (is that a word?) the death of your sister in the deserts of Mid-west America circa 1976. You are given basic missions where you drive your car from point A to point B and destroy everything in your path (or avoid getting destroyed by it, whatever the mission says)

At the end of every mission, you get a list of parts salvaged from the cars you destoyed which you can then incorporate into your vehicle.

It is not as open ended as Autoduel but the graphics are much better (excellent graphics at the time it was made) and it puts you inside the vehicle in first-person style.

If you and your friends have networked computers, I always enjoyed battling my friends in my custom made School Bus with nitros oxcide and rocket launcher. You can build anything from a Ford Pinto to a Mack truck. (the Ford Pinto with the V10 engine and mag wheels is another of my favorties)

punch999 29-09-2005 09:24 PM

I reviewed this game Why is "tanners" there

Guest 10-10-2005 01:59 AM

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Brian 24-10-2005 07:02 PM

if anyone is insterested in similiar games... interstate 76 and Interstate 82 where somewhat close to this game... (imo not nearly as good, but alot bette rgraffics.. LOL)

Jack Swift 01-11-2005 08:22 PM

EDIT: We do not allow any warez links - regarthless in what form they come!!!

But you would probably like to read this first: (It's from the site.)
Quote:

Abandonware is not legal.The law prohibits anybody from copying a commercial game if the copy is not for a personal use, by extension, it's forbidden to offer games on Internet and it is also forbidden to download a game if you don't own the original one. A game is protected by law for 70 years.
In practice, it's a bit different because abandonware is usually well tolerated by game owners/producers.

Everything on this website is free. No paypal, no phonepass, or other stupid things like this. (exept for donations)
We do it for fun, and 'cause we love oldies.
You'll find also a support & discussion forum in french & english language.

EDIT: By the way, does anybody have manual-scans, or a link to a manual for this game?

hshot_rooke 06-11-2005 12:46 PM

I've actually go this game for the PC. It's complete with box, manuals and disks, but the disks are 5 1/4" floppies which I don't have a drive for anymore, so I can't even get it on the pc.

EDIT: Good for you, but just so no body would be tempted to ask you for your version, your e-mail is removed.
We'd be happy though if you'd contribute box scans for the site.

Guest 23-11-2005 10:32 PM

I tired to download this game, but I can't seem to get it to work. Can anyone help?

A. J. Raffles 23-11-2005 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Guest@Nov 23 2005, 11:32 PM
I tired to download this game, but I can't seem to get it to work. Can anyone help?
Yes and no. You can't download it, I'm afraid, because it's ESA-protected and we lost our permission to host it.

Guest 23-11-2005 11:31 PM

Can I buy it somewhere? For Windows?

Guest 23-11-2005 11:33 PM

I would like to get an official copy if possible. email me at NO@EMAIL.com

A. J. Raffles 23-11-2005 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by Guest@Nov 24 2005, 12:31 AM
Can I buy it somewhere? For Windows?
Ebay would probably be your best bet.

Omisis 28-01-2006 06:49 PM

I can't download the games. There is no instruction

Sebatianos 28-01-2006 08:31 PM

That's because you are NOT ALLOWED to download the game. It's ESA protected (read the writing that shows up on the screen!

Richard 03-02-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Jack Swift@Nov 1 2005, 09:22 PM
EDIT: By the way, does anybody have manual-scans, or a link to a manual for this game?
Link to a copy of the manual

Although this says it's for the Apple II, the game map and weapon specifications, etc are the same in all versions.

Drive offensively!

JonahFalcon 17-03-2006 01:22 PM

I used to make millions of dollars by going to Las Vegas and cheating at cards (just save, bet everything, and if you don't win, reload the game and try again.)

This was the best game I ever had on my C-64.

zbrick 22-03-2006 03:36 AM

my lord how i loved this game when it was first out. Me and my friend stayed up all night playing it - first time i ever did that. Absolutely brilliant - i played everything lord british made from that point on.

wolfenzero 07-04-2006 06:45 AM

Autoduel is an awsome game i played when i was a kid
it a mad max wastland world in Upstate NY!!! Really UpState Ny that why in the game there Cows cows ! LOL anyways Im from there ! Upstate
there was Roadwar usa and europe that is close to the game made by ssi

I love it i Have the Orignal commodore 64 version and works

to bad in not abandonware as the game is over 16 year old!

if companys are not releasing a over 10 year old game to public domain

they better dam well remake update the game to present modern pc standerds

ya i like to see Autoduel in a 3d enviorment ! with surround sound !
somthing like a grand theft auto! called it hhmmm Autoduel Upstate Newyork
and a europe version Etc! and carwar like mods, expansion packS! Etc
opps sorry got carried away
i would like to do a drivebye on the cows through the fences ! and in the area somthing like the game quarintine crazy taxi like

well all you fanware!!! retro remakers game makers make this game your project!!
i would love to see this happen ! please make this happen !

:help: :w00t:

irockwithdirt 09-04-2006 02:42 PM

Sad...loved this game on my Apple IIC

Searched for it in the past with no luck.........found a few versions on eBay but nothing in a format I could use.

If anyone knows where I can get a working copy plz let me know.

Thanks :wall:

EDIT: An e-mail of an unregistred member removed.

James Z. 09-05-2006 10:45 PM

Yes, this game was a favorite. Like many great old favorites it had a huge disadvantage: the disks would eventually crap out and no more game!!!

Graphics aside it was a worthy effort and a milestone of its time. No, Steve Jackson Games when last I was contacted from questioning is not re-releasing it or making a new one. Why is beyond me... though they said financial reasons. Auto Assault if it is ever made should be Autoduelesque as one of the programmers is a former Origin employee.

Yeah, I have been looking on Ebay myself for it... my copy went with my old hard drive a couple years back and, no, my disks no longer work either. If you love the game and Car Wars contact as many people as you can and have them (or get a petition) and get the news to SJ Games. Unfortunately, the game just never sold enough copies.

Guest 14-06-2006 09:12 PM

As I believe was mentioned above, this game is mislabeled. It is an RPG, not a racing game.

If anyone is reading this forum with the authority to move it to the RPG section, please do so.

guesst 14-06-2006 10:48 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jun 14 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]236870[/snapback]</div>
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As I believe was mentioned above, this game is mislabeled. It is an RPG, not a racing game.

If anyone is reading this forum with the authority to move it to the RPG section, please do so.
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I am reading. I have authority. It is moved.

Of course I double checked it first, but I think I agree with you. As much as i can tell this ain't Daytona.

Ramidel 16-06-2006 01:21 PM

Anyone have the maps for this game?

Guest 20-07-2006 03:17 AM

I remember in the 80's some gaming magazine had the mega-cheat for this game. You messed with the code or did something strange which gave you a really FUBAR'ed car, but then you went to salvage and could sell it for like 400k, then buy everything you wanted LOL. Loved this game, happy to have d/led and played it again 20+ years later!

Guest_namster_* 27-07-2006 07:32 AM

The game download appears to work now! so grab it and blast your way to Autoduel heaven

Guest 17-10-2006 07:05 PM

So i have the dos version on my computer and i'm wondering if any of you remember how to get out of your car in the arena and salvege from other cars you've shot down

Guest 12-11-2006 03:01 AM

:brain: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(snowowl0909 @ May 8 2005, 05:36 AM) [snapback]105222[/snapback]</div>
Quote:

any idea if there's anything similar to this game (maybe freeware clone of some sort?) that's made more recently?
hasn't seen anything that has the Mad Max style setting to it and the closest thing is Autoduel which in addition to being commercial and undevelopment it's also a MMORPG..:(
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Certainly, there is Road Wars theres STX kinda like Spyhunter from Wildtangent, theres Roadwar2000. just to name a few. I paid out megabucks cuz i remembered playing Autoduel on C 64 way back. Tips on AADA? Try not shooting it up when on courier tasks, or you Will get tires chopped pretty badly and lose your courier loads, rep., and be more than dead. Walking.

Guest 12-11-2006 03:02 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 17 2006, 07:05 PM) [snapback]261784[/snapback]</div>
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So i have the dos version on my computer and i'm wondering if any of you remember how to get out of your car in the arena and salvege from other cars you've shot down
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G key

Guest 12-11-2006 03:08 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(wolfenzero @ Apr 7 2006, 06:45 AM) [snapback]220160[/snapback]</div>
Quote:

Autoduel is an awsome game i played when i was a kid
it a mad max wastland world in Upstate NY!!! Really UpState Ny that why in the game there Cows cows ! LOL anyways Im from there ! Upstate
there was Roadwar usa and europe that is close to the game made by ssi

I love it i Have the Orignal commodore 64 version and works

to bad in not abandonware as the game is over 16 year old!

if companys are not releasing a over 10 year old game to public domain

they better dam well remake update the game to present modern pc standerds

ya i like to see Autoduel in a 3d enviorment ! with surround sound !
somthing like a grand theft auto! called it hhmmm Autoduel Upstate Newyork
and a europe version Etc! and carwar like mods, expansion packS! Etc
opps sorry got carried away
i would like to do a drivebye on the cows through the fences ! and in the area somthing like the game quarintine crazy taxi like

well all you fanware!!! retro remakers game makers make this game your project!!
i would love to see this happen ! please make this happen !

:help: :w00t:
[/b]
Here ya go : Auto Assault and Roadwars. Very inexpensive and very nice playin games. They are nowadays mmorg s and are 3d adventures. Watch for heavy artillary on towers and building s on Roadwars by WarCry. Godhead does sound good with that. Happy gaming. Ya need a ff steering wheel.

Guest 02-12-2006 04:50 AM

This was the first game i stayed up all night playing. It was a revelation to me. I couldn't be happier to see this game available - i feel like a kid again! Too bad there's no "tears of joy" emoticon....

Nux Vomica 27-12-2006 03:31 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Nov 12 2006, 04:08 AM) [snapback]266484[/snapback]</div>
Quote:

Here ya go : Auto Assault and Roadwars. Very inexpensive and very nice playin games. They are nowadays mmorg s and are 3d adventures. Watch for heavy artillary on towers and building s on Roadwars by WarCry. Godhead does sound good with that. Happy gaming. Ya need a ff steering wheel.
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There was a project doing something very similar called "Loose Cannon" by Digital Anvil. AFAIK they got sucked up by Microsnot and it was never completed, but there were some screenies floating around and it looked very nice indeed. They may still be washing around some dark digital sewer. Maybe one day........

BTW I have the original for the Atari (8-bit I think) if I can find the docs I'll happily send some scans


Nux Vomica

thatmexicanguy 07-01-2007 07:38 AM

Great game; loved the aspect of being able to build your own car and customize it any way you wanted.

Guest_Mike_* 06-03-2007 01:33 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LokRobster @ Jul 3 2005, 05:25 AM) [snapback]126957[/snapback]</div>
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Does anyone actually have this game? I think it's funny that it's protected but you can't buy it anywhere, from anyone. Origin doesn't exist, and Steve Jackson Games is awesome, but they don't sell this game...

anyway, if anyone's selling a used (or new LOL) version of Autoduel, I'm interested...

LokRobster@yahoo.com

WHEEEE!
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I just saw one on Ebay...even had the little mini toolkit that came with the game...and for a penny no less!!
Anyways, I played this game on my Commodore 64 and LOOOOVED it. Just downloaded it and am having just as much fun as I was in 1986!
If I could code, I would make a modern MMORPG version of this. Would be awesome and has potential to be really in depth with character creation and auto creation. NOT like that crappy Autoassault game from NC Soft.

Lusitano deLorean 30-04-2007 08:09 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Coltyhuxx @ May 9 2005, 03:20 PM) [snapback]105652[/snapback]</div>
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Autoduel was a hard hard game to get started (for me, at least). It was one of those games I played over and over again, trying to get some salvage out of the Arena and ever so slowly making minimal progress. I remember barely making enough money to recoup the money I'd spent on ammunition. Only once or twice did I make it out to the highway with a decent car. :ok:
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I remember when I started playing it, I did a lot of Amateur Nights to win initial cash, studying Mechanics in-between, then building a decent chASSis-kicker to clear roads around New York and pick up salvage to sell off. (Higher Mechanic skills == more money from salvage.)
My "play style" was(/is!) "exploratory", so I took my time learning the roads, going off-path, and keeping an eye on my power plant!! They say "fools rush in", and it DOES apply in Autoduel!

I remember discovering TWO important things:

(1) the tactic of ALWAYS keeping an eye on your radar, and as you get closer, CREEP toward your nearest target, in the MIDDLE of the road. With little practice, you eventually get to a point where ONE PIXEL's worth (or width) of the target appears at the edge of the screen, and they're NOT moving. Usually you're already lined up for a DIRECT HIT, so FIRE AWAY! I took out many cars this way, saving myself the hassle of prolonged combat, and the expense of repairs to car and self. (Admittedly, a sneaky, almost cowardly way, but when you're outnumbered or outgunned, you take any advantage you can to survive!)

(2) HEX EDITING for cash. Pure, digital cheating. ;)
For the PC, the most essential MS-provided tool you can use is FC.exe (File Compare) followed by DEBUG.exe. ..and you need to know how to translate into/out of Hexadecimal. :]
If you wanna get a quick bout of shoot-em-up fun, HEX EDIT yourself a fortune, and make a set of cars, one for each Division at the Arena, and go Duelling for money and fame. Road-policing is for vigilantes, anyway.

"AutoDuel - Where the Right of Way goes to the Biggest Guns"
( .. though I hafta say, "brains and tactics" come in rather handy too! )

*** Drive Offensively! ***

Lu'no deLor'

"She's my armored limo, my Gallega -- Lg Power plant to pull her around, decent set o' guns to trash-talk, and plenty extra space. She may LOOK slow, but you'd be surprised!"
"Falcon is my mid-size 'speed' rig -- OilJet out back, to give 'em the slip; MGs both sides for 'drive-by'; and a heavy gun up-front to shoot through with. (I'd *like* under-floor compartments for... 'stuff'!!)"
"Then there's Puff, my scout vehicle -- compact, med power plant, good armor, twin front MGs, SmokeScreen out back, a little room to put salvage."

Bastos 30-04-2007 08:22 AM

Intresting game, never heard of it before.....

Will definitly try this one out.....

Thnx :ok:

Casublett 24-07-2007 04:52 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kon-Tiki @ May 7 2005, 10:28 PM) [snapback]105148[/snapback]</div>
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Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review
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I used to play this on my trusty C-64... And I never got far.

I tried sooooo hard to like this game and forgive it all its flaws, but I never could. The controls of the driving part were just too bad.

Guest 24-09-2007 08:04 PM

unfortunately, this game is not actually abandonded yet. i have spoken with steve jackson via email and the copyright is still actively registered with the company who bought out origin systems. i have been attempting to pry more information out of the company in question, i'll get back with everyone.

and mr. jackson has interest in producing a modernized 3d version. but theres a lot of hurdles that require jumping before that can happen.

The Fifth Horseman 25-09-2007 08:06 AM

What company is that? We might want to contact them in order to negotiate for a permission.

TheChosen 25-09-2007 08:29 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Sep 25 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]313066[/snapback]</div>
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What company is that? We might want to contact them in order to negotiate for a permission.
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Steve Jackson Games

The Fifth Horseman 25-09-2007 08:34 AM

According to Wikipedia, the company that bought out Origin was Electronic Arts... so my question still stands: who exactly holds the copyrights to this computer game right now?

TheChosen 25-09-2007 08:38 AM

According to wikipedia, Steve Jackson Games have requested abandonware sites to remove the game from their archives. Appearantly, they are holding the rights.

Romano 25-09-2007 09:54 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheChosen @ Sep 25 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]313075[/snapback]</div>
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According to wikipedia, Steve Jackson Games have requested abandonware sites to remove the game from their archives. Appearantly, they are holding the rights.
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Any action needed !?

nijineko 28-09-2007 08:00 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Romano @ Sep 25 2007, 05:54 AM) [snapback]313096[/snapback]</div>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheChosen @ Sep 25 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]313075[/snapback]
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According to wikipedia, Steve Jackson Games have requested abandonware sites to remove the game from their archives. Appearantly, they are holding the rights.
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Any action needed !?
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okay, sorry about that earlier. i was the guest that posted about the copyrights. i've emailed with mr. steve jackson, and they have tried to get the copyright for autoduel pried out of electronic arts hands, but so far to no avail. EA gives them the runaround, and won't tell them who the responsible person / office is. apparently the license agreement was pretty extensive, and they can't make a computer based autoduel game without getting the rights back from EA, or something similar. they are exploring alternatives, but won't announce anything officially until it is doable for certain. i believe that they have an ongoing discussion about it on sjg's forums.

to clarify, steve jackson games owns the rest of the rights to the car wars / autoduel universe, just not the computer game rights. specifically, the autoduel game.

anyhow, the deal is that they have not abandoned autoduel, and are actively persuing it. even if EA technically owns the right to the computer game, and is not doing anything with it. as such they are requesting that it not be considered abandonware. luckily for me, my dad still has his copy of autoduel. =D

Guest 28-10-2007 07:27 PM

OK,

I've read through the "manual" that is linked to from this thread, but I still can't figure out a couple of things:

1. Can I get salvage from amateur night at the Arena?

2. How do I win amateur night? I have destroyed three cars (they're "out of commission"), can't find any more opponents, but when I leave the arena, I get the message that I lost - too bad, maybe next time etc.

Can anyone explain the above to me?

Many thanks.

Zwischy 30-10-2007 08:46 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 28 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]317618[/snapback]</div>
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OK,

I've read through the "manual" that is linked to from this thread, but I still can't figure out a couple of things:

1. Can I get salvage from amateur night at the Arena?

2. How do I win amateur night? I have destroyed three cars (they're "out of commission"), can't find any more opponents, but when I leave the arena, I get the message that I lost - too bad, maybe next time etc.

Can anyone explain the above to me?

Many thanks.
[/b]

If I remember right - and it's been a whlie since I've played this last - there's at least 5 cars you have to destroy. Perhaps you're not driving enough of the arena to find the last couple opponents. I always drive the arena in a counterclockwise circle. You cannot get salvage from amateur nights.

Also, the quickest way to dial up your cash to start with? Don't buy a car. Go get on the bus to Philadelphia, then to Atlantic City. Gamble at the Poker tables until you have about 850,000 in cash. More than that will see your funds get slapped down by the IRS the instant you leave the Casino (I think it's 900k+, but I could be wrong. 850k should be safe if memory serves). Then get back on the bus to New York and go experiment with car builds, which you can then take into the arena or go hunting bandits outside town to build your prestige so you can then do AADA courier runs or other missions. Oh, and don't forget to buy some body armor!

You may need to restart a couple times if the poker tables go badly, but it usually works without requiring too much time.

empath 13-01-2008 07:23 PM

Very well explained, Zwischy! You neglected one tiny detail: Gold Cross. This lot will create a clone of you for a fee and keep updating it (for further fees) as you gain skills. This permits you a 'second chance' if you do crash & burn.

Yes, you can always return to a saved game, but why not keep the game's immersion going? With close to a million, you can surely afford a GC 'insurance policy'. :D

Thanks for all the thoughtful discussion here, and here's hoping EA (I'll never call it "Electronic Arts" - that company actually respected its creative staff, but is sadly LONG gone :( ) slip up and actually allow Mr. Jackson some leeway with the comp.game rights to his creation!

nijineko 13-08-2008 04:15 AM

concerning the salvaging: nope, can't do it during amateur night.

beating amateur night: there are five cars. cudgeling my memory yields the following positions for them: one at 4'o'clock, one at 3'o'clock, one at 12'o'clock, one at 10'o'clock, and one at 8'o'clock. i usually go around them counter clockwise in the order i just listed, and then leave the arena out the top exit near 11'o'clock.

good luck! oh, and if you lose a couple fights now and again, your reputation score will drop allowing you to play amateur night longer. but once your cash exceeds a certain amount they still refuse you admittance.

Shawdawg 27-12-2008 05:36 AM

Hey, guys...new to posting on this board, but want to give you some information about another good game sort of like Autoduel.

If any of you have Operation Flashpoint, there is a mod called CarWars (same name as Steve Jackson's RPG this is based on) where in a campaign mode you play as Mad Max for the most part, but it doesn't totally follow the life of him.

Also included is a special mission where you can save at any time, and as you kill the enemies in the level, it raises xp that you use to buy different vehicles and crew members from a list that pops up when you use the Interceptor.

Look up CarWars for Flashpoint to see more, a lot of fun. Just can't modify the cars urself.

Also, I just finished watching Death Race, and if you are a car combat fan, it's a pretty sweet movie.

WayAbvPar1 11-06-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by empath (Post 316318)
Very well explained, Zwischy! You neglected one tiny detail: Gold Cross. This lot will create a clone of you for a fee and keep updating it (for further fees) as you gain skills. This permits you a 'second chance' if you do crash & burn.

Yes, you can always return to a saved game, but why not keep the game's immersion going? With close to a million, you can surely afford a GC 'insurance policy'. :D

How do you return to a saved game? If I die, the saved driver is gone when I go to the screen. Does anyone have any tricks that allow me to clone saves or something so I don't have to start over if I make a mistake and get killed? I love the game, but the startup phase is just brutal.

MikeJYWood 20-09-2009 04:29 PM

What's the ultimate goal?
 
I played this game A LOT back in high school but now I just don't have the time to invest hours and hours into it.

Please, will someone tell me if the game truly had an "ultimate goal" and if so what was it?

leg 10-01-2010 05:19 PM

is there an end game?

Diamondfist 16-01-2010 02:00 AM

From what I've been able to find out about the game, there is a way to get to the final mission. You have to build up a high rating in combat or by completing courier missions to qualify, and you won't have to complete some of the courier missions. I wanted to use spoiler blocks, but they don't seem to work for me.

If you do qualify, the FBI sends you to an abandoned building (they tell you where) and gives you a password to give to them. After giving the password to them, you get the final mission. The program erases all of your clones at this point, so you must back up your save game, and don't enter any bars or truck stops on the way to the final destination.

Loendal 20-01-2010 10:19 AM

Autoduel started it... Darkwind Perfected it
 
I played this game to death when I had it on my Commodore 64. I'd spend hours at a time fighting in the arenas. The roads were always really dangerous to me, and I had trouble getting from city to city but when I did, it was to the next Arena event I qualified for I'd go.

I've seen alot of posts in here saying "I wish they'd remake this" or "They should do an updated version!". Folks, it's been done.... And it's been done WELL..

I suggest you head to http://www.dark-wind.com/ and check out Darkwind! It's what Autoduel could have been if the technology were available then. The creators of Darkwind know all about Autoduel, Car Wars and all the other Cars-With-Guns games and they've created what I believe to be the best Car Wars game online. It's multiplayer, looks great and plays well. It has a bit of a steep learning curve, but once you get the hang of the physics and the turn-based control mechanism, you won't be able to stop :)

It's an option-to-pay game... You don't HAVE to pay for a subscription if you don't want to, but there are some limits in place for non-subscribers (i.e. You can't go out into the wilderness; you can only do Arena Combats, Deathraces, and Races) but if that's what your after, then that's what you'll enjoy!

I think anyone that loved Autoduel will love Darkwind even more. If you DO decide to subscribe, you are given an option to put in a player ID number as the person who sent you there in the first place. Mine is 8384 and if you do decide Darkwind is worth paying for, please place that number in as your referral. (And no, this isn't a troll for some kind of pyramid scheme, Darkwind is well worth playing and we players try to get the word out there when we can ;) )

You can find me and my friend on there as Loendal and Felimed (My gang is the Big C Rollers, his is Mandelbots). I'll be glad to help you learn the ropes.

senhorlampada 08-02-2010 02:51 AM

Darkwind is the way to go nowadays!
Maybe i'll develop something :D

(Gonna sketch some stuff)

Good thing I already have sketched some rules to play with Matchbox/Hot Wheels cars ;)

nijineko 15-03-2010 02:34 AM

so, nijineko again, with an update on the autoduel copyright.

it has been confirmed that EA does in fact own the copyright. It took a few years to track down anything about the autoduel copyright, or anyone who knew much about it, but persistance paid off. A representative of EA who has authority relating to said copyright has been put in contact with Mr. Jackson and it is now up to them.

i can only hope that they will be able to work something out. =D

dueler 03-04-2010 08:16 PM

autoduel
 
Definitely my favorite game of all time. this is back when games were hardcore - i mean, the very game refused to allow you to scum save without actually copying the disk! (scum saving is the practice of using saved games to 'get it right' - see a game like Nethack, where they don't even offer a clone!).

The closest we have nowadays is something like Demon's Souls, though there death isn't gameover by any means. There is no such thing as 'game over' anymore... kind of sad, in a way.

I still remember the day there was a fire down the street and I ran back into the house to grab my save game disk for this game.

Of course, that's in part because I never did any of the tricks mentioned in this thread - I made my fortune the old fashion'd way - I salvaged it. I highly recommend not abusing Atlantic City - the joy you'll feel at earning enough money to buy a new, upgraded car and then take it into battle is unmatched in any video game.

I remember spending an hour in an almost destroyed vehicle that could pretty much only drive in a circle getting it to the next city. It was times like that - where you were inches from losing your character, and you had to hoof it on foot to the next city and hope you didn't get slaughtered that made the game so amazing.

I actually have the game box and toolkit and all that from this game, though i believe my father lost all my gamedisks (I used to keep them separate).

Thanks for the memories!

PS- Roadwar and Roadwar:Europa are nothing like this game, but also worth checking out. They're more text based - build up a huge gang/army of weaponized vehicles and then fight in turn based battles, if I remember correctly. I beat both, loved both, but Autoduel is still king.

Damuri 24-08-2010 02:03 AM

The whole game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeJYWood (Post 383303)
I played this game A LOT back in high school but now I just don't have the time to invest hours and hours into it.

Please, will someone tell me if the game truly had an "ultimate goal" and if so what was it?

The end game is putting Mr. Big in jail. You can't get the quest until your reputation is high enough and you gather the elements of the password.

You start as an amateur autoduelist. YOu get 50 points to allocate to your stats: Driving, Marksmanship and Mechanic.

All your skills go up with use, your marksmanship goes up fastest and your mechanic goes up slowest BUT you can "buy" more mechanic skill by taking classes at the garage (it takes 5 days). I would recommend putting all your points into driving and marksmanship (30/20 is what I go with, YMMV).

Do amateur night twice, take an mechanic class then do amateur night a couple more times then get a clone and another mechanic class. Keep doing this until they won't let you do amateur night anymore (if you really want to, you can keep doing amateur by spending all your money on mechanic lessons cars and clone updates; trash your reputation by getting courier jobs at the AADA and selling them at Joe's bar. At some point you will be ready to leave amateur night behind for good.

The 5K and 10K arena tournaments are fairly easy, machine guns and spikedroppers should do the trick.

The 15K and 20K are more dangerous, some of the cars have lasers which will eat through your armor like cheese so get used to using your spikedroppers when your front armor starts running low.

The unlimited battles are tougher and have more opponents.

City Champioships are the toughest and have more opponents than any of the regular battles but you should have the skill you need by the time the chamionship rolls around.

The arena will train up your marksmanship very very quickly and it will likely approach 90 by the time you get to the NYC championship (*I think you get one point for every 2 kills).

At this point you will start to get clues to some quests that provide serious reputation boosts. This will catapult you to max reputation and the end quest.

I did a few courier missions to push up my driving skill (you get about 1 point for every 100 miles driven (or so)). My road vehicle has a laser and a bunch of oil jets and I drive right past everyone and leave an oil slick in my wake.

If you cheat don't cheat and do things the hard way, you spend a lot of time making ends meet and every achievement is very satisfying.

If you use the gambling cheat so that money is never a problem, the game gets pretty short (two evenings and I am done) but you still can enjoy the game.

BTW this image verification software is really difficult to read.

The Bloodhawk 02-09-2011 05:53 PM

I just downloaded, and I like. I didn't know this was by Lord British himself either! The only problem I'm having so far is that you have to be specific with the controls to get in the doors.


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