I have played a lot of RPG's since 1988 starting from magic candle and going to diablo and finally ending on world of warcraft.

During this time i have analyzed these games and found out that though most of them were fun but the most addictive one was Everquest because of its extremly vast numbers of bosses to kill, hard to attain loot (which inturn you use to kill even bigger bosses) and almost an endless character progression in terms of new skills and spells.

Ofcourse these MMORPGS are online, so i was wondering is there a game which comes close to these games in terms of gameplay but is playable offline ?

A game that come to my mind is Elderscrolls III:Morrowind.

Though from reviews etc it looked like everquest yet actually it was very boring. It was huge and it took hell lot of time to travel in it and with no clue where to go it took hours just stumbling around (considering EQ is 10 times it size yet it takes 5-10 min to get to most places at max).
I didnt find any fascinating loot in game either something that would crave me to explore the game.


So i ask you gamers is there an open ended RPG out there thats addictive coz of its character development/spells/equipment/bosses or gameplay ?

Please let me know thanks

Let's see if I got that right: You want an "RPG" where the focus is not story/dialogue/exploration, but grinding mobs for xp and lots of loot?

How about Diablo, Dungeon Siege, or Sacred then? Have you played these "RPGs" yet?

Add throne of darkness, Rage of mages 2(although it has a good story), Septerra Core(old school gaming),Divine divinity to your list

dungeon seige is a laugh,

I thought it was a good game, although it could never compete with the RPG giants, and the fact that it's sequel is coming out this year testifies that :bleh:

I understand what you're after (I think).

I like rpgs where you can not just follow a big storyline or kill lots of monsters for purty items, but rather, one where you can actively become 'part' of the gameworld and have the freedom to do what you will. Daggerfall showed some promise with this (being able to own ships, houses etc). But unfortunately, daggerfall was generic as hell. Even fallou showed some promise (being able to join gangs, become a boxer or a porn star) but still, the game was extremely story-driven. My perfect RPG would be one that is freeform and extremely responsive to your actions.

If anyone knows of a game like that, tell me.

its called real life.

the only game i can tihnk off is world of warcraft, but thats a MMORPG

:D Too true...

What about Ultima VII? Nobody mentioned it so far. I never ever followed the storyline but took off on my on. It was fun and lots of stuff to explore and find.

Yeah, but I always fail at that game. (real life I mean)

Yeah, it sucks, no save games... :D

Or a rewind button, that'd be useful sometimes.

Yes, definitely, a do-over button for reallife. What wouldn't we all give for one of those.

Morrowind is the closest thing I can think of to what you want, and you've already noted it. I should add that if you get the PC version, you can include so many quest mods that gameplay time exceeds 300 hours, and you have task options out the wazoo. Nothing else comes close, because nothing else supports quite so many mods (up to 255) at the same time.

Heard good things about Anachronox, never tried it though, always wanted to.

Well if you want monsters and dungeons, you could try TES I: Arena (available here on the site, reviewed by yours truly) or TES II: Daggerfall which has more advanced dungeons.

Two words = Planescape : Torment

Other good games include : Morrowind and Deus Ex. That's a good game.

Kinda pointless to recommend Morrowind, when he said right away that it was not what he's looking for. ;) Same goes for PS:T, I doubt it will satisfy him when he's looking for a single player Everquest.

Maybe there are some mods for Neverwinter Nights that are more hack & slash/item farming, though I can't say really.

Hmmm.You should really think about Daggerfall: You can buy boat/house,you can do subqests,you even dont have to do main quest. You can get disease and play this game as Werewolf,Wereboar or Were(something I forgot what that is) or as Vampire. And they have they own special abilities and even clans...
BUT-this game is full of bugs, and it is quite generic, and it can become also quite boring becouse of it.
The Morrowind was just flawed copy of Daggerfall.Against Daggerfall it excells just in graphics and mods....

I've got Morrowind and Dues ex.

I liked Morrowind, but I thought that it had less flexibility than daggerfall, even though it had better graphic and a better fighting system. Dues ex - I thought the game was brilliant, but more of an adventure game.

Has anyone played Knights of the old republic? My mate has it on his X-Box and I got to see the beginning. It looked sweet.

On Morrowind, however, I have heard of a mod that will allow the player to travel the entire expanse of Tameriel (The fictional land where the gme is set). And there's also Elder Scrolls IV on the horizon. Maybe with the fourth installment, Bestheda will take into account what they cut out from morrowind and insert more features from daggerfall.

By the way, I heard that Bestheda has bought the rights to the Fallout franscise. This can only be cool.

Thanks guys, i will try out some of the game you guys mentioned.
Though i have played most of them already i will still give the ones that i havent played, a try.

I found that diablo 2 was quite close to open end RPG in the sense that you would play it after completing it for getting better items, character development took a while ( i reached level 93 ) and you could do bosses over and over again for better items.
What it lacked was content. there were total of 5 chapters and 5 bosses in total and you have to do them over and over again. Used to get boring after a while unless you are aiming on developing your character.

I played Nwn and it was linear i.e you cant get a highend armor/weapon at start no matter wat you do. I mean atleast give the player a chance maybe put a tough monster in jungle and if player can kill it coz of his skill etc you reward him by giving him a good weapon. However that might imbalance the game.

Hoping that some game will be made in near future that fulfills our requirements =)

Well It doesn't take too long to get to places, I never got bored when I was travelling from place to place, and I never got lost.

But then again I never finished it.

Yes and don't forget KOTOR... it was made by a very unpopular company, Bioware :sneaky:

Unpopular? Bioware? No way, I'm a fan of there work, and what they've done, actually the company is based where I live.

Is proud :D

I was being sarcastic(notice the sneaky smilie) :whistle:

D'OH :wall:

Every game I have experienced that is by Bioware have been top quality games. :D

you're right there :ok:

Yup they certainly do their work in the quality department. :ok:

will real life involve dice rolls too?

-you approach 'shoes'
-roll for shoe laces
-failure!
-you tumble into a pile of dirty laundry
-roll for smell
-success!

You enter pub
You drink beer
Confidence +1
Conciousness -1
You approach woman
Roll Dice to Pick up
Critical Failure - lose pants.
You drink beer

-roll for witty forum reply to Rorture
-failure
-result: "duh? i'ma be posting the goodness"
-wit -15 for 30 minutes
-your reputation with Abandonia has decreased!

yeah, morrowind is the only one i can think of. the baldur's gate games have a pretty high degree of freedom, up don't have to do anything you don't want to.

yeah, planescape is awesome. not like anything i've ever played.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Hilarious.

Yes, Morrowind was pretty good but it and all the others before it won't even hold a candle to the Elder scrolls IV, Bethesda is cooking up some seriously awesome stuff!
Check it out, http://www.elderscrolls.com/home/home.htm