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Bagerist 07-03-2005 05:53 PM

I never make some program but I wont to lean. Do You now some page on Internet wear I cant learn How to make program?

Kon-Tiki 07-03-2005 06:20 PM

Link

Pangloth 08-03-2005 03:59 AM

Przilicaturbak, it is nice to see that you are willing to learn new things, but you need to know that there's more to coding than getting a compiler and hacking away at some code.

If you want to simply be able to write applications, then (if you are dedicated enough) you can get by with some good tutorials (see Kon-Tiki's link) and a few good books. But, unfortunately, creating something even mildly complicated requires a deeper understanding than you can (usually) acquire by yourself.

Example:
Even the simplest Windows program requires you to learn Win32 programming, which, on the other hand, assumes a comfortable knowledge of at least one programming language (preferably C or C++). Drawing to the screen... oh man, you need to dig into the GDI or DirectX / OpenGL. It gets confusing fast.

The best way to approach the subject of programming will be to look through some tutorials online and go to the bookstore/library and pick up a primer on some programming language. Then try doing some of the suggested exercises, etc. to see if that's even what you expected it to be.

Good luck.

Kon-Tiki 08-03-2005 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by Pangloth@Mar 8 2005, 05:59 AM
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Example:
Even the simplest Windows program requires you to learn Win32 programming, which, on the other hand, assumes a comfortable knowledge of at least one programming language (preferably C or C++). Drawing to the screen... oh man, you need to dig into the GDI or DirectX / OpenGL. It gets confusing fast.
(...)

He can just use Visual Basic and not worry 'bout all those things, actually. It's good for beginners. Writes almost like English, is easy to learn and can be used as step-in for other languages such as Java or C++, as the main thing that requires, is starting to understand the less English-like but more abstract language and how to work with header-files. All by all, it's a small step once you've gained decent understanding of VB, which on itself isn't that hard to get.

Omuletzu 08-03-2005 03:04 PM

Yes VB is very easy to use.An ideal choice for starters

Pangloth 08-03-2005 03:32 PM

Right. I agree. I am only saying that it depends on what you want to achieve. Any reasonably large project will require more than that, but I understand that a "reasonably large project" might be far in the future, if ever.

VB is more than likely a good place to start.

Omuletzu 08-03-2005 03:38 PM

If you are going for visual basic, i would like to recommend visual studio 6.Besides VB 6 you will also get Fox Pro and C++ , among other utilities.So after you have familiarised yourself with the basics, you can try C++ ;)

Kon-Tiki 08-03-2005 04:09 PM

Now that it's mentioned... what's Fox Pro?

punch999 09-03-2005 08:10 PM

actually i thought q basic is great for starters im actually afraid of visual basic because of its GUI

Kon-Tiki 09-03-2005 08:16 PM

VB's easier than Qbasic, because of its GUI. It's drag'n drop and Qbasic coding, but you don't have to worry 'bout coding the graphics, like you have to in Qbasic.

punch999 09-03-2005 08:27 PM

whatever thats my oppinion but you are definatly right about the drawing hehe

NrmMyth 10-03-2005 05:28 PM

In my opinion the best way of learning a language is to borrow/buy some books off programing in that language you want to learn.
Then read book once and after try to solve some of the problems.
Then read it again and all will be clear as light.

You won't learn anything from tutorials that you can't learn from 200 pages heavy book. :max:

Danny252 10-03-2005 06:12 PM

Always have some reference, so if you aren't sure, you can check again and find out.


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