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TheSmyth 02-03-2005 08:25 AM

Think i've covered most of the best, but i'm sure someone will come up with a brillinat one that i've missed. :tomato:

Iron_Scarecrow 02-03-2005 08:35 AM

RotT. :Brain: :Brain: :Brain:

EDIT But you did miss out some of the Star Wars ones. Dark Forces was one I believe.

JJXB 02-03-2005 09:58 AM

Star wars: dark forces definetly holds fond memories for me :)

Iron_Scarecrow 02-03-2005 10:10 AM

Aye it does for me too, but RotT is still the best.

Eagle of Fire 02-03-2005 10:45 AM

I don't see why, Rise of the Triad always looked like a very cheap game to me. It also came along by the end of the "old FPS" trend without any game personality which would perk it up more than another which made me think of it as yet another Doom clone.

Duke Nukem 3D, on the other hand, is something else. The game is not graphically perfect (not that it bother me at all anyways) but the story and the theme is what the game is all about. Much like UFO in a way. And at least in that FPS you could frigging jump more than 5 centimeter above the ground and if timed right jump over ennemy fire such as RPG ammo which actually gave jump an utility! :ok:

Iron_Scarecrow 02-03-2005 11:49 AM

Well to be honest I have only ever play RotT, Duke Nukem 3D and Dark Forces. RotT was my favourite as it was the only we had that wasn't a demo.

EDIT We also had Wolfenstein 3D, but I never really liked that one.

The Fifth Horseman 02-03-2005 12:39 PM

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Think i've covered most of the best, but i'm sure someone will come up with a brillinat one that i've missed.
Blake Stone. Maybe not as good as Doom in graphics, but much more playable. Think solidly beefed up Wolfenstein with a number of extra features. And it beats Wolfenstein to 10 miles below the depth of hell.

Lizard 02-03-2005 12:47 PM

What about Terminator:Future Shock??? :eeeeeh:
It was revolutionary game,becouse it was first fps that used mouse for looking/aiming and keyboard for moving.And you could drive a jeep,a hovercraft...
It was quite good and important one.

Omuletzu 02-03-2005 12:54 PM

Doom 2 Hell on Earth.Wolfenstein was also very good.Many of the games in the poll are just clones of these two

Calamity 02-03-2005 01:14 PM

System Shock definately wins the "best" category even though I love every game listed.

It definately has the best played story from the list. Sure the graphics weren't the best but but everything about it is fantastic.

I'd still have to say that it's by far my favorite FPS series (coupled with the original Deus Ex and I'm one happy puppy). Warren Specter simply put creates the best FPSes.

TheSmyth 02-03-2005 03:28 PM

:rifle: Terminator Future Shock sucked!
When i first saw a freind of mine playing it i thought, yeah cool, the graphics looked pretty good, and who wouldn't want to shoot terminators!
But once you actually played the game for 5 minutes, it stank!

At least with Duke Nukem, it might not have been the prettiest, but it was definitely more fun to play.

Shadow Warrior comes a close second, for anyone who hasn't played it.. think Duke Nukem, meets Big Trouble in Little China... hilarious

LordHogFred 02-03-2005 04:46 PM

I would have chosen System Shock but I don't think that it excelled in the actual FPS genre I thought it was much more of an adventure/RPG. Thats why I had to pick Duke :ok:


madcrow 02-03-2005 05:26 PM

tis def. duke3d great action, nice humor and cool gfx for the time. that game was proof that the build engine was the best 2.5d engine. i also remember really wanting redneck rampage at the time, but not being able to get it...

edit, decenst doesn't REALLY belong here. it always struck me as more of a flight-sim with FPS aspects than a true FPS. it's prolly the best game on the list but i didn't vote for it 'cuz its not really an FPS.

Lizard 02-03-2005 05:33 PM

Well the best early fps from which I can choose here is definetly System Shock.But I still think that Terminator Future Shock should be here :angry: ´
Duke3D was very nice and funny game with excellent gameplay,but it was -just-
very good doom-clone :tomato:

littleguybrush 02-03-2005 05:36 PM

Out of those? System Shock by a mile. Altough Dark Forces should really be up there, it's Doom with beter gameplay, plot (it tries), and level design. Back when Star Wars games were good.

Maerlyn 02-03-2005 05:58 PM

I tried to like Dark Forces, i couldnt.

The only FPSs that i completely enjoyed were the Doom games. Ah, and Medal Of Honour on PS1, i thought that was awesome at the time.

troop18546 02-03-2005 06:06 PM

There are two choises: Doom 1 or 2; System Shock; I vote SS but Doom was cool too.

Fawfulhasfury 02-03-2005 07:01 PM

DukeNukem3D

DeathDude 02-03-2005 07:13 PM

I'd have to throw my vote to Duke Nukem 3D

Dreadlord 02-03-2005 07:58 PM

System Shock, yeha! :ok:

BeefontheBone 02-03-2005 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Calamity@Mar 2 2005, 02:14 PM
System Shock definately wins the "best" category even though I love every game listed.

It definately has the best played story from the list. Sure the graphics weren't the best but but everything about it is fantastic.

I'd still have to say that it's by far my favorite FPS series (coupled with the original Deus Ex and I'm one happy puppy). Warren Specter simply put creates the best FPSes.

yeah - how much am i looking forward to the new game (the name of which eludes me)?

Dreadlord 02-03-2005 08:03 PM

Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.

Lizard 02-03-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Dreadlord@Mar 2 2005, 10:03 PM
Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.
There will be new System Shock game??? :blink: :w00t: :w00t:

xoopx 02-03-2005 08:34 PM

blood

MasterGrazzt 02-03-2005 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by xoopx@Mar 2 2005, 09:34 PM
blood
"Strangers in the night, exchanging glances..."


Rise of the Triad had a personality. Any game which has DogMode and a Steven Hawking-esque boss is just fine by me.

And who's going to vote for Ken's Labyrinth? Okay, it was made by a twelve year old, what an accomplishment, but when you get past that, it's terrible. No gameplay what-so-ever.

Also, TekWar. Um... The only thing worth mentioning about it is that William Shatner is in it, and he didn't even make it worth getting. Or thinking about. If I got the game and used the manual to line my parrot's cage, he'd probably slash my face off with his talons.

Calamity 03-03-2005 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by Dreadlord@Mar 2 2005, 04:03 PM
Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.
And that is exactly why I'm torn between buying it immediately or waiting a little bit. I'll admit that the new story seems pretty groovy, but there has never (and possibly might not ever be) been a better villian than SHODAN so having a game without her just might not be right.

Sure they're calling Bio Shock the "spiritual successor" to the series but keeping the name so close to the other half of the series kind of lets the fans down who're craving the return of our favorite rogue AI. :sneaky:

MasterGrazzt 03-03-2005 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by Calamity@Mar 3 2005, 04:12 AM
And that is exactly why I'm torn between buying it immediately or waiting a little bit. I'll admit that the new story seems pretty groovy, but there has never (and possibly might not ever be) been a better villian than SHODAN so having a game without her just might not be right.

Sure they're calling Bio Shock the "spiritual successor" to the series but keeping the name so close to the other half of the series kind of lets the fans down who're craving the return of our favorite rogue AI. :sneaky:

I half-agree. On one hand, SHODAN is a goddess. :kosta: On the other hand, I'd like to see new territory explored. I mean, Superman has more enemies than Lex Luthor, and Spidey fights more villains than the Green Goblin, right?

TheSmyth 03-03-2005 06:45 AM

The new Deus Ex spin-off looks pretty good too.
Project: SnowBlind it was originally going to be part of the Deus Ex series, but they've droppped it for some reason, and converted it into a seperate game.
Same sort of thing though, biomods, stealth, cybernetics etc... but a bit more action focused than playing as a Denton. :rifle:

Velcrow 04-03-2005 12:52 AM

:not_ok: My god people :not_ok:
How can you not appreciate all that wolf3d did
It was by far the best dos fps ever
doom was great but wolf3d was five times better considering all it had to work with
Wolf3d was the game that set the stage for doom
Duke Nuken just plain sucked
everything else is just a clone of those three games
I have to say i am dissapointed by some of you(not those that woted for wolf3d)

Oh yeah
PROJECT SNOWBLIND SUCKS A**!!!!!

The Niles 04-03-2005 07:09 AM

Dark Forces for me is the best DOS First Person Shooting had to offer. It was as repetative as Doom (and any other FPS from the era) and had a better story. Why is Tek War up there as a choice? it has to be one of the worst FPS in history.

troop18546 04-03-2005 02:46 PM

I had played System Shock2 when I was younger and it was really scary so I'm thinking that THIS time I wont miss it and buy "Bioshock" for sure... :ok:

dr_st 04-03-2005 08:19 PM

I go for the original, i.e. DOOM. But since DOOM II is everything DOOM is, but better - I voted for it.

Lizard 04-03-2005 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by troop18546@Mar 4 2005, 04:46 PM
I had played System Shock2 when I was younger and it was really scary so I'm thinking that THIS time I wont miss it and buy "Bioshock" for sure... :ok:
Can someone give me a link to some bioshock preview?Before I read this thread I even didnt know that there is third sequel of System Shock... :blink:

Dreadlord 04-03-2005 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Lizard+Mar 2 2005, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lizard @ Mar 2 2005, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dreadlord@Mar 2 2005, 10:03 PM
Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.
There will be new System Shock game??? :blink: :w00t: :w00t: [/b][/quote]
Dispel any notion of another "System Shock" game, Bioshock may have a similiar name, but it is in no way connected, it's first person/roleplaying hybrid gameplay is still the same, but everything from the art style to the storyline is different. The only connection is the play style, sadly, there will not be another System Shock.

P.S. If you don't get it yet, it's not a freakin' System Shock Game! It's not a sequel!

If you're still interested despite the fact that there's no connection, here's a link to a preview.

Bioshock Preview

Lizard 04-03-2005 09:36 PM

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@Mar 2 2005, 10:03 PM
Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.


There will be new System Shock game??? :blink: :w00t: :w00t:

Dispel any notion of another "System Shock" game, Bioshock may have a similiar name, but it is in no way connected, it's first person/roleplaying hybrid gameplay is still the same, but everything from the art style to the storyline is different. The only connection is the play style, sadly, there will not be another System Shock.

P.S. If you don't get it yet, it's not a freakin' System Shock Game! It's not a sequel!

If you're still interested despite the fact that there's no connection, here's a link to a preview.

Bioshock Preview [/b][/quote]
A pity :cry:
But it look interesting...I allow myself to be a little optimistic and hope it will become at least half as good as System Shock2

BeefontheBone 04-03-2005 10:02 PM

not sure if that does it justice - PC Gamer had a very attractive preview a month or two ago.

Jman4117 05-03-2005 01:55 AM

I'd say either Decent or Duke Nukem 3D.

vonn 05-03-2005 05:06 AM

Blood is my favorite, but on that list I'd have to say Wolfenstein 3D.

Dreadlord 05-03-2005 04:09 PM

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@Mar 2 2005, 10:03 PM
Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.


There will be new System Shock game??? :blink: :w00t: :w00t:


Dispel any notion of another "System Shock" game, Bioshock may have a similiar name, but it is in no way connected, it's first person/roleplaying hybrid gameplay is still the same, but everything from the art style to the storyline is different. The only connection is the play style, sadly, there will not be another System Shock.

P.S. If you don't get it yet, it's not a freakin' System Shock Game! It's not a sequel!

If you're still interested despite the fact that there's no connection, here's a link to a preview.

Bioshock Preview

A pity :cry:
But it look interesting...I allow myself to be a little optimistic and hope it will become at least half as good as System Shock2 [/b][/quote]
That's a bit of a stupid attitude, just because it's being developed in a different setting doesn't mean it doesn't have the same promise, besides, I hope it isn't hyped, it really pushes the publishers to shove it out early...

Lizard 05-03-2005 04:12 PM

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@Mar 2 2005, 10:03 PM
Bioshock, not connected to System Shock sadly, we won't see SHODAN.


There will be new System Shock game??? :blink: :w00t: :w00t:


Dispel any notion of another "System Shock" game, Bioshock may have a similiar name, but it is in no way connected, it's first person/roleplaying hybrid gameplay is still the same, but everything from the art style to the storyline is different. The only connection is the play style, sadly, there will not be another System Shock.

P.S. If you don't get it yet, it's not a freakin' System Shock Game! It's not a sequel!

If you're still interested despite the fact that there's no connection, here's a link to a preview.

Bioshock Preview


A pity :cry:
But it look interesting...I allow myself to be a little optimistic and hope it will become at least half as good as System Shock2

That's a bit of a stupid attitude, just because it's being developed in a different setting doesn't mean it doesn't have the same promise, besides, I hope it isn't hyped, it really pushes the publishers to shove it out early... [/b][/quote]
Please let me my dreams.... :unsure:

troop18546 05-03-2005 06:08 PM

I hope it will be good. Cause System Shock was unbelievable for its age.

Lizard 05-03-2005 06:18 PM

Yeah.Btw why it isnt already on abandonia :blink:
It IS abadonware isnt it? :blink:

troop18546 05-03-2005 06:53 PM

I checked and it - NOT abandonware... :cry:
But Doom2 I believe IS abandonware and its still being sold, although its, I dont know 8 years old or smth... :whistle:
Damn. :angry:

Zarkumo 06-03-2005 12:30 PM

The best DOS Shooters were

Blood :kosta: (great, creative level design and definetely the coolest weapons)

Heretic :kosta: (besides magic wands you also head magic spells; great sound and sound effects)

Hexen :kosta: (you could choose between different characters, as in heretic you head weapons and spells, and levels were non-linear).

I couldnt choose between them, but each of those beats all the others mentioned in this thread.

:rifle:

PS yes, in the above poll it would be Wolfenstein3D. :D

Ioncannon 06-03-2005 12:45 PM

Wolfenstien 3d was my first game ever (age 4 or so). I wouldf play it with my dad and we would see how far we could get in the game. Rott was also realy fun, loved the different missles in the game (the furewall and drunken missle were my fav). My other fav was Duke3d, another game me and my dad would play together.

Tulac 06-03-2005 01:34 PM

System shock was uberboring for me back when I played it(maybe I would change my opinion now), Duke3D was amusing, ans so was Quake, however I don't like FPS too much(except the WW2 ones)...

DeathDude 06-03-2005 05:29 PM

I never did play the original system shock, but from the reviews and screens I have read it looks like an interesting game, I remember playing System shock 2 though and that was a fun game, I got to get my hands on it one of these days.

troop18546 06-03-2005 05:40 PM

The scaryest thing I can remmember in System Shock was when a robot was coming towards me saying:
"Dont run away."
In a cold way... brrr.

DeathDude 06-03-2005 06:01 PM

I still remember those things on level 1 in system shock 2 when they first start coming at me, scary stuff.

troop18546 06-03-2005 06:06 PM

Scary like in Doom3.

Lizard 06-03-2005 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by troop18546@Mar 6 2005, 08:06 PM
Scary like in Doom3.
The only FPS that ever scared me was Alien versus Predator multiplayer.In the Doom3 it was just scripted situations,but in AvP it were weird,pervert and sadistic minds of my opponents :ph34r:

Koen 06-03-2005 06:39 PM

Catacomb Abyss. I liked the scene, and I liked the fact that it runned on my pc :P

Calamity 06-03-2005 06:49 PM

You guys have the rebirth upgrade pack for SS2 right? If not I definately advise grabbing it because it upgrades the skins making them even more scary (except for the midwives, their original skins still care the hell out of me. :( ).


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