Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review

Congrats on promotion!!! :)

Way to go! :) :ok:

:cheers:

Never tried this game, and don't have time right now, will do it as soon as I finish this migration.

This game's interface seems similar to Bard's Tale.

This is one of the few games I actually paid money for back in the day and I was not disappointed. For its time, the story was well written, decent gameplay on par with Bard's Tale and Wizardry, and decent graphics.

I remember reading an interview with the lead programmer and he said that he wanted to put better graphics and more subplots to the story, but was limited to two 5.25" disks for size. Originally they had planned on putting in animated icons similar to the Ultima games.

Nonetheless this is a great game. Cheers to Abandonia for adding this! :cheers:

This surely, absolutely and banana full-proof is one of the best games in history. Kind of common, huh? Ok. It has beautiful graphics (yes), a really good post-nuke story with subplots, a really fun character develpoment system with 'hidden" skills, a climate (i'm playing this game the second month now in my really neat polish winter scenery and I feel like the sun is burning me :ok: ). I recomend this game for all Fallout lovers and other Interplay and Bard's Tale fans. Hail Abandonia :kosta: (I can't drink alcohol beacause I'm 13). Any hints? You don't have to even look at Max or Finster if you wan't to find Cochise. Fixing toasters is good. Bye. :bye:

maybe it is the same engine and a predecessor of some sort to SSI's FRUA engine
(Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures ) ? :)

i think i would like to give it a shot or two :)

It was a standard style interface for the period. I remember playing Wasteland when it first came out, and loved it.

One of the Best Games Ever!!! Bought it back in the day and played several times. Lost it and then found it again. Have played it even more. Easily my fav game ever. :)

This maybe seems a little lame, but where is the cave entrance?

LOL, that's something I'm looking for.

I find that getting any actual information out of people in this game is a huge pain. :crazy:

They're unresponsive like that.

Forget about playing this game. Wasteland was a great and influential game for its time. I used to love this game. The fact is Wasteland has NOT aged well, at all. This game serves its historical purpose. However, I would not recommend it to anyone for today's gaming, unless you want to study the history of gaming and catch up with all the old games.

The cave in Highpool?

On the west cliff wall beside the stream, a little north from the corner where Bobby is, there are 2 trees along the cliff wall separated by one space from each other. Use perception on the space between the trees, then use a rope.

Personally this subquest is quite pointless though, you can recruit Jackie but she's a terrible NPC.

Someone who comes to Abandonia or other old game site, looking for old classics, is actively seeking out these games for some reason or another. Why not give this one a go as well? It is to be expected that the game engines, graphics, interface etc will be vastly inferior to current games, more so with this game coming out in the late 80s. But (you knew this was coming) what it lacks in those departments, it makes up for in terms of gameplay, replayability, the roleplaying elements and personality. These are what make a game a game, and these are why Wasteland warrants attention from any mildly serious gamer. I guess it's OK if you do not wholeheartedly recommend the game to someone, but it's at least worth a mention, with all the caveats of dated graphics etc if you like. My one gripe about the game is that during the first time round, it can be very frustrating just trying to stay alive. Also, it can be unclear what you're supposed to do and where you're supposed to go next to advance the plot in the right way.

You might not love this game anymore, but personally speaking, I first played this game over 10 years ago. After completing my first game, my party consisted of 3 of the original characters, plus 2 duplicates of my strongest character and 2 NPCs. I've managed to save my original party (but discarding NPCs at will) and still play them occasionally until the present day. It's always fun, although my party might be a little too strong (without hacking mind you, 49 Brawling???), my highest ranked character is a Specialist Major, and my character stats improve a little each time. LOL

Fixing toasters is indeed good. But I wish there were more toasters (I think there are only 3 in the game?) so I get more chances to raise my skill!

Ugh, that was Harleqwyn in the post above. Sorry.

Wow! Looks like we have a Wasteland 'expert' (or at least has played through the game a few times)

I am quite familiar with the game yes, but I certainly don't know everything about it. So did you find the cave?

This is by far one of the best games that I have ever played. I can't count how many hours/days/weeks/months/years that I've played this game.

I unfortunatly threw out this game when my first computer died, but I downloaded it and I'm adding another year to my time :ok: . But does anyone know where to get the orignal scenario disks from? I hate having to start all over once you beat it, and the disks would let you reset the game, but you could keep everyone in your party with all their experiance and skills.

If no one else will oblige, I suppose I can. How do you propose I send the files to you? YouSendIt?

Ok, silly question, but is there any way to re-start without re-installing?

Thanks!

I assume dismissing all your partymembers and creating new ones would do the trick.

Heh, if only I could... I am currently stuck on a stage in Quartz.. The patrons of the bar throw stuff at me whenever I try anything and they want me to entertain them.. /sigh

Try any of these skills: knife fight, knife throw, sleight of hand, acrobat. If these fail, there must be another skill which will work, or even your attributes... Remember to press 'space' for direction.

Harleqwyn you just joined my top 10 list of favorite people :D :D :D . I thought I would never find them. Yousendit would be just fine.

Sure thing :D

Actually I wonder if this sort of sharing is cool with the mods... but since it's on Yousendit, would Abandonia like to have the master files as well? If so, please do. Then it is possible to restart the game with the old characters (plus other options). Just ensure that the old game files are in the directory 'C:\Wastelan' before running the masters.

Gah. Here's the link:

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3694CTA...7B0R3JZ95RL259E

I played this game about 2 times over when it came out (maybe two years later) because it was fun, and I died alot. (Ah, mutated rats.)

Wow. I'm amazed to learn that thanks to the miracles of modern technologies I can relive the frustrations of my childhood. I remember buying this game out of the bargain bin of Electronics Boutique (where all of the games for my totally rockin' Apple 2E as well as many other already outdated in 1993 video games came from) and getting absolutely nowhere. Maybe I was just a particularly dumb child (not at all hard to imagine, between my failure at zork and my special ed math class), but I have very vivid memories of spending hours on this game watching my characters slowly die off after failing to gain any skills or gold, wandering aimlessly in the desert being attacked by mutant rats. Now if they could just make some sort of computer simulation of removing my first bra and sitting on the bench in little league my childhood would be virtually complete.

toasters? this game is incredibly difficult to get into, but once you get a certain level, it gets more interesting...but toasters? what about these toasters? what do they do and how do they do it? I've come across these appliances, but never bothered taking them...

any waffle irons?

No waffle irons... just broken toasters. At some higher level libraries (Vegas?) you get to learn the toaster repair skill, can't remember the IQ needed tho. There are 3 (I think) broken toasters to be found in the game, and there's a toaster repair workbench as well. Fixing the toaster nets you some nice stuff. It's not really needed to finish the game (except if you accidentally dropped a certain key needed to finish the game, that key can be pulled from a broken toaster).

Of course I have no manual for this game so I have been slowly figuring it all out. One thing that confuses the heck out of me is that the ammo shops keep dissapearing somehow. I mean, they are still there but there isn't an option to go inside anymore. My characters just walk right into the spot where the shop would be and stare back at me like the stupid unisexual stick figure they are. I have plenty of money and I need ammo real bad, but none of the gun shops I know work anymore for some reason. Why is this happening? Did I sell too much to them and they went out of business or something? Can I even fix this? I thought it was a fluke the first time it happened but now there are two non-responsive ammo shops. Need help quick!

I've heard of this one, straining memory here... it's likely because you did not save after leaving the shop, or died? It's a bad bug, I do remember that the shop cannot be resurrected. But there are shops in Quartz, Needles and Darwin Village, so you can still play yet. Perhaps you could back up your game at times in case you lose the last shop as well, and try saving after leaving a shop.

By the way, there's plenty of ammo and guns in the game without ever buying from a shop.

Well thanks for the info. I should back up the game before I use shops in case they dissapear. I've taken to copying the whole directory the game is in so in case something stupid happens that I can't take back, I just go back to the last copy of the game. But yeah, there really isn't any ammo here. I'm in the sewers and those damned hopped up deluxe edition cyclons or whatever are kicking the crap out of me. I have to keep using anti tank weapons on them to do any real damage. SMGs stink against them (emptying a whole clip will do like 3 damage). Assault rifles can occasionally do decent damage with a burst (like 12 every once in a while) but are prone to be ineffective (more like 0-5). Anti tank weapons rock against them (like 60 damage every time) but I am quickly running out of RPG-7s and LAW rockets with which to shoot them. Unfortunatley, only my NPCs have high AT weapon skills so they shoot whatever they feel like. They keep wasting rockets on the cyborgs that normal weapons can kill and ignore the heavy duty ones (like the deluxes). I'm also just about out of 7.62 clips and all that seems prevelant around LA are 9mm and 45 clips. 9mm is almost completely useless and 45s are only slightly better. The laser pistol seems to be not a whole lot better then a 45 pistol too. I may just start the whole dang game over again so I can keep the dang shops. The other thing that hurts is that even though my characters have armor ratings of 4 and up, they take like 30 damage every round from like 50 yards against enemies that show up on a regular basis.

I looked up the bug and you are right. If for any reason you leave the game without saving or die after using a shop it will be gone forever. I've had tons of problems with the game randomly freezing where I have to go to windows and manually shut it down. It probably froze while I was reorganizing everyone's inventory and I had to close it. Wonderful. I'm probably going to start over. Since I know where everything is up until where I am now, it should not take nearly as long.

sry about that :blink:

My apologies. I don't think restarting is a good idea, but if you do, you may want to check out a link I posted on a previous page to the game master files, which allow you to restart with your old characters, but stripped of all equipment. I have experienced freezing playing directly in XP, but never more than a few times in the whole game.
Yes.
Ahem.... totally forgotten how it's like playing with fresh characters and NPCs :tomato: Hmm, what can I offer. OK, consider closing in and taking damage so that your characters can hit the enemy with AT weapons. You have to attack successfully to level up your skills anyway. Yes, SMGs are practically useless in the sewers. So is the laser pistol, but there is a laser carbine further in the sewers, much more useful. After every tough battle, exit the sewers and heal up (use the function key macros for this). You may have noticed that battle group numbers are random when first encountered. Use that to your advantage to reload and get smaller and more acceptable groups, since Centron Deluxe and Cyborg battle groups do not spawn randomly, only the weaker Tazels and Cyclons. Ammo ammo... Have you visited these places: ammo dump (Needles), waste pit (Needles), Jailhouse (Vegas)? Again, the loot bags are random until first touched, so you can try for more ammo if you're patient. Everyone should be wearing no less than AC 5 if possible. In Spade's Casino, in the lower right room of the 1st screen, there are a few guards. Whack them for an extra kevlar suit and laser pistol. You can also try climbing over the bar and see what happens. :rifle:

:wall: yeah, I've been to those places. I didn't realize that the ammo spawned randomy though... I did notice that even the heavy duty characters (like the deluxes) show up at the same place every time but do have different numbers if you exit and try again. Well, going back wouldn't be too big a deal. I could go back to my first copy of the game where I merely have my characters created and go from there. After all, I really haven't gone through too much. Just needles, about half of LA, the agricultural center, highpool, and quartz. It's not that big a deal to start over. I'm considering recreating the characters to be more useful though. I started two of my party as primarily melee characters and they're becoming less and less useful as the game goes on. I'll probably give them anti tank skills or something so they can carry their weight later in the game. And yes, I do know about the libraries. I wasted my skills on stupid things :P I'll just go back and make it all good.

Well, I've started over and things are going fairly well. My characters' constitutions are a little low but in general I have a more skilled party this time around. And I think I figured out what keeps constantly freezing the game up. So far I've been using the mouse for just about everything except moving (which is impossible to do well with the mouse). Switching to keyboard and parking the mouse at the side of the screen seems to have gotten rid of the problem. One question though: When I put the mouse over my characters and hold down the button, time goes much faster then when I hold escape down. Is there any way on the keyboard to get the same time speed as the mouse? I'd like not to use it at all if possible but I don't want to have to wait twice as long for my characters to recover.

For me, the end of the Vegas sewers always marked the end of part A, with part B being the rest of the game. But restart by all means.
Melee is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact with the right melee weapons you can inflict the greatest damage, besides energy weapons on full auto. But you're right in that the game doesn't really reward skill specialisation. I'd say put a point in all gun skills and brawling except rifles, spare points could go to clip pistol, assault rifles, AT weapon or brawling. AT weapon is IMHO more useful in desperate situations when you need to take the enemy out quickly, but toward the end there are some powerful energy weapons and much more ammo than you'd find rockets. (And it's really awful when you're armed with a rocket, and get 'xxx attacks and misses'.)
Man, you really need confidence, sleight of hand, bureaucracy and combat show to survive in that there hostile desert. Really. Honest. :evil: :bleh: :whistle:

Wow, you posted quickly...

Good luck in your new game. I don't know about the keyboard, have a look in the Dosbox config if you're using Dosbox, the keyboard control panel in Windows otherwise. I mentioned macros previously, pressing ctrl+function key allows you to program a macro, press it again to record. To delete the macro press ctrl+function twice. So for instance by pressing one macro key you can execute 1000 ESCs once you've programmed that. I've found it useful for gambling too.

It's never too late to ditch the mouse, that's for sure. And this would help anyone else who finds their game freezing often. Good stuff. :ok:

I bought this game in 1985 and played it on my beloved Commodore 64. It came on 4 5 1/4inch flopies, each of which had to be copied before you could start to play. This took as I recall about 80- minutes for EACH disk. I have never enjoyed a game so much since then. Yes, modern games have beautiful graphics and sounds - but this game had a PLOT and wasn't simply "if it moves shoot it".
Far and away the best game I ever played. I got fallout and - boy was I disappointed.

me too.. me too..
I still have the disks, booklets, box and the "survival guide".
awesome game! :ok:
I think the C=64 graphics were better, or as I remember them (so long ago; I used to have to use my imagination, not like games now LOL )

Can anyone help me? I have to take the visa card to the guy named:Head Crusher.

Ive already found him but...how do i give the visa card to him?? :help:

Sit across Head Crusher, Use the Visa Card, then press Space when prompted for a direction. Hope that helps.

Apologies, that should be 'sit opposite Head Crusher'.

Thanks.

Now another question...what should i do then? Any quest?

Head crusher is a miniquest for loot. When you give him the visa card you are prompted to read a paragraph from the manual, which tells you to deliver a password to one of the nomads camps. You then get further instructions to get to a stash of loot nearby the camp, along with a shovel. The location of the stash doesn't change, so you can actually skip Head Crusher and go directly to the loot LOL Be prepared for a fight, btw.

Ah, the memories! I actually remember buying this game at the now defunct Lechmere chain in Boston - I still have the original floppies, booklets and box. I've never been so transfixed by a game as a kid, not even the later Fallout series. Maybe because the graphics were so primitive, yet the actual plot and text so rich ("Metal Maniac stitches the Desert Dweller full of bullets, exploding him like a blood sausage"), that it left so much to the imagination. The little booklets of vignettes was absolutely priceless. The player was only supposed to read the paragraphs cited by the game, but, of course my youthful curiosity got the better of me. There was one that specifically said "If you keep reading, the Needles Thought Police will arrive at your door within the hour, whereupon your fingernails will be systematically removed," and it absolutely freaked me out.

As far as finding the cave at Highpool: yes, it's between two trees on the western end. It helps to have high perception to notice it. Then, if I remember correctly, use the rope, and use the climb skill to get down. You will also need to use the climb skill to get around the boulders. Sorry, but Bobby's dog (do I remember the name of the kid who lost the dog?) has to be killed, you cannot avoid it once you get into the cave.

Wow! This was my favorite game back in the day! (late 80s early 90s) on the Commodore 64. I beat the game several times and still have the old hint book! Only wish I could still start with well equipped characters.

LOL at the old paragraph book. There was a whole Buck Rogers type story in there, too!

You used to be able to cheat in the old commodore version by copying the original disk over the play disk, and therefore getting all the ammo, etc back you already took. And being able to beat the easier foes. Any way of doing something similar now?

I got this game right after it 1 st came out. played it on my Laser128(apple IIe) I thought it was great had a blast. Of course it cant compare to the games now but for its time it was a lot of fun. Remember it was on 5 1/2 floppies with no hard drive.

It's a shame this isn't available for download here, it's a classic. Obviously the graphics really show its age but for atmosphere and the sheer joy of discovery and travelling a post apocolyptic wasteland it can't be beaten. Its text was top quality too, it managed to give a really graphic sense of what was happening in just a couple of lines. Very enjoyable, and pretty vast too!

The best game by far during it's time. It has aged well too. I remebered I would keep the master disk and switch out the secenerio diskette, until all my charcters had power armors and proton axes. It's pretty funny restarting the whole game with a super-team...and pummelling a bunny with a proton axe!
Too bad you can't do it anymore. :bleh:

Ah.. the MEMORIES :max:

Is there any sounds in this PC-version? I don't hear any music, either. Is there something I can do to get the sounds working?

:blink: I think I found a reset program... atleast that's what it says... I haven't had the chance to try it yet.

http://www.caveoftrouble.com/bear/wasteland.php

kewl site you've got here guys... it's bookmarked now and I will be back

My kids had this game many years ago, why back on an Apple IIc. Between it and Bard's Tale I became hooked on RPGs and by default, computers. Of course by the time the computer was vacant long enough for me to try the game, the dog had literally eaten the paragraph book... even so I had a lot of fun trying to figure things out. I used the reset program quite a few times, since in my blundering I inevitably got the wrong people killed and I would wander around so long that all the amao ran out....

Now thanks to the internet, google and sites like this I can finally play this game again and this time I actually know what's going on... what a concept!!!

Anyway... Thanks guys.... I'll be back!!! :cheers:

Now you've done it to me!!! I lived in Boston for 6 months in late 80's and fell in love with a beautiful Boston lady. Head over heels I was.....Like all Boston women she was as smart as a tack and feisty.....Oh the memories.... Then there's Wasteland. The game I bought while there - in Lechemere's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you need to understand, I am British and I have been back in the UK for 15 years now, so to get a memory of buying Wasteland in that store and the memory of those times in Boston and the memory of Wasteland all came flooding back together.

Thanks so VERY much. Glassy eyed for so many reasons.... :cry:

By the way. You must get that original manual scanned and pdf'd and put up on here and everywhere. Nobody has the original manual and all emulator people would love it. I have lost the game over the years and now can only play it on emulation! DO a service to humanity (if you can - no pressure!) !! :) Thanks again!

For me, this game seems obscenely tough. I can't even find how to get into the first cave! The children in the town pelt me with stones because I murdered some of them. Why? Why me?

Because you killed some of them?

But only because I keep getting in these dang encounters with them! They wont leave me alone. And once, I was stuck in a cycle of being eaten by rabbits. They would Unko me, and then I'd heal, and as soon as I woke up BAM unko again.

If you are talking about the cave in highpool talk to the kid in the southwest corner and ask him about the cave, dog and jackie. Use perception and then the space to locate the cave(across the creek) and then use rope & space key to climb into the cave. :ok:
Just because you slip on the rocks in the creek and the kids laugh at you doesn't mean you have to CAP them. Unless you want to :whistle:

That restore thing doesn't work. Seems like it would only if you have the game on disk or CD.

Oh, by the way, this game is on E-bay now. Asking for more than $100! :wacko:

I don't get it but HA!
Lemonade for evereone!
:drunk:

Helpp-where is the boys cave?

Along the left cliff at Camp Highpool...

Just use your perception skill everywhere until you find it...

You'll need a rope to get down into the cave though.

Now for the reason I'm here:

What's your favourite method of training your characters to obscenely high levels?

I like getting everybody's gambling skill to 8 at the Desert Nomads and then using the Skill Point bug to raise my gambling skill by 1 point for free every time I gain a level.

Once my luck is 20+ and my Gamble is 13+, I'll go to Fat Freddy's, program a macro to gamble in a loop, use a small but heavy object to hold down the F1 key, go to sleep for a while, and check how many levels I've gained when I wake up...

There's an even better way than that, but it only works well if at least 3 characters have a swim skill of 3 or lower...

Unfortunately, almost all of my party has a Swim of 4 or 5.

Here's my favourite Wasteland guide:

http://user.tninet.se/~jyg699a/wasteland.html

Incidentally, I melee-kill just about everything I fight in Wasteland and don't bother training any combat skills other than Brawling and Energy Weapon (for that enemy in Base Cochise that you can't melee-kill due to what I believe is a bug).

And I make sure that my entire party learns Doctor once my IQ hits 21: Sure it's cheap as Hell, but it makes life much easier.

I've heard of this one, straining memory here... it's likely because you did not save after leaving the shop, or died? It's a bad bug, I do remember that the shop cannot be resurrected. But there are shops in Quartz, Needles and Darwin Village, so you can still play yet. Perhaps you could back up your game at times in case you lose the last shop as well, and try saving after leaving a shop.

By the way, there's plenty of ammo and guns in the game without ever buying from a shop. [/b][/quote]
The shop dissapearing, happens if you save or radio in on the "shop tile" so do not do it or you'll be sorry, step away from it first. Its really easy to do in Quartz by mistake, I think it might also happen if you get attacked when you stand on the shop :/

Some tips I can give for some easy xp is get climbing and acrobat, make a macro then constantly try to climb the sand hills in needles, your skills will level like crazy, and you might gain a few levels when you radio in. Also when you make your characters buy one level of combat shooting i think its called, you can't buy that skill later in the game ever. When you get later in the game and raid The Temple of Blood save all manglers/rpgs/law rockets you find then head to Darwin City, sell only enough rocket launchers to equip you whole team with kevlar suits. And you will want atleast one character with lvl 3 in AT weapons skill, you can use spears and such to raise it. Another macro I'd make is multiple "esc" key presses to advance the time faster mainly to heal where time advances slower ie. buildings/dungeons.

Well, that takes a little fun out of the game, but I guess if you've played it "normally" a few dozen times . . .

I usually just give my guys a little boost by running along the skylight above Ugly's hideout.

HEY!

Is no one having problems with this game freezing up every 5 minutes??

Pretty aggravating. I've tried increasing cycles and stuff, but it still crashes... always... every time. What the fuh?



Lokey

The freezing is caused by the mouse. You have to play the game without a mouse, and more to the point, prevent the game from detecting your mouse when you start it up.

I have very little experience with DOSBox, since my computer is too old to use it effectively, so if you don't know how to do this, I'm sure someone else here can help you out.

:w00t:

Anyone figure out whether there is a way to get music\sound working? Only hear little blips here and there, like footsteps.

I thought there was music on the old c64 version I played back in the day.

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I don't know about the c64 version, but the PC version didn't have anything more than clicks and beeps.

I think there might have been some music at the end, been awhile since I've played it. If there was though, it was nothing but beeps chained together. :P

You could just get the c64 version and play with an c64 emulator.

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I don't know about the c64 version, but the PC version didn't have anything more than clicks and beeps.

I think there might have been some music at the end, been awhile since I've played it. If there was though, it was nothing but beeps chained together. :P
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darn, oh well thanks. I looked at some of the c64 emulators and they looked to complicated to use (Or at least I dont have enough time to not be lazy:))

I remember running a copy of Knight Rider on a C64 emulator - back in my DOS days, at that. It's simpler than it looks, really.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T$ @ Mar 20 2005, 07:55 AM) [snapback]82192[/snapback]</div>
I've been looking for years for that stupid survival guide online, just a .pdf or a transcription... I just want to read it again!

Great Game....
So when is Tennis for Two going to be abandonware?

I've actually made a Pen and Paper role playing game based on wasteland around 1990-91. I still have all of the material for it including rules, combat mechanics sooped up using the Top Secret combat and hit location rules, new weapons, aromor & items, and artwork!
I made an expanded and very detailed map using real world maps fro the whole area the game takes place in. It has added locations and radiation and chem hazard locations marked as well as "Forbidden Zone" borders.
I also have Pen and paper graph paper maps for AG Center-(It is much larger inside a glass greenhouse and with outlying farms and guardposts right by Parker Dam on the Colorado River.
I also have maps of Quartz, Needles, Vegas, Sleeper Base, Darwin village, Project Darwin, Guardian Citadel, and Project Cochise being made and expanded upon.
I have maps of new locations including Shanty Town, Tent City, and Scraplands off the California Coast and Hydropolis under the ocean.

I am using it in a Fallout campaign as the basis for the story, with some many new original additions.

I wonder if this can be made into an original RPG. The unique items and storylines I have certainly warrant this.

I have thought of making a CRPG with the ideas changing things around as required using the program RPGExplorer which lets you incorporate any type of RPG mechanic.

There once was a "Fallout: Paper n' Pencil" RPG made by someone.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php...y&cat_id=63
http://www.pamedia.com/rpgames/rpg/falloutpnp/

i've read about this super loot bag cheat, but can't seem to get it to work. any ideas?

btw, i remember way back when playing this game in the early 90's with my outdated computer, and getting the game off a friend who was selling them.. heh

Is the version I downloaded from this site the PC version or the Apple II version? I used to play the Apple version back in the days but the graphics on this downloaded version don't look much better. Also this version doesn't show the earth being bombed at the beginning.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MakMega @ May 24 2007, 05:14 AM) [snapback]291104[/snapback]</div>do you see exe in the archive? :bleh:

by the way, dos version HAS better graphics than apple version
apple
pc

I know this may seem stupid, but how do you restart the game? I'm stuck at the bar in needles because I can't I can't entertain them.

Hello everyone

Occassional lurker, now a member.
Out of curiosity, are there people on this board who still play this game?

For some time I collected classic and old games and during that period I picked up a new, almost completely sealed (it did tear open in a corner) copy of this game on Ebay.

I also later picked up the Survival Guide when I purchased a load of strategy guides.
Unfortunate I don't have the means to scan it right now but you all don't really miss much.
I had hoped that all the conversations of the game would have been in it as well as a guide to and statistics of all the opponents in the game.
Neither do.

I know its an oldie now but I wouldn't mind seeing someone creating an online guide that possess both elements.
I would really like to read the conversations.

remembering wasteland
 

great game and you can move anywhere in the map

i played before on the apple 2. i made backups before playing that way i can replay it. WL has an autosave feature when you move around (fallout has the same).


at the needles bar you need acrobat skills to entertain

password to darwin black market-cretian (you can ask the bartender)

after blowing up base cochise use the chopper in the citadel to fly back

some links

online apple 2 emulator
http://www.virtualapple.org/

wasteland-http://www.virtualapple.org/wastelanddisk.html

wasteland reset- reset the game keep your characters
http://wasteland.rockdud.net/wlreset.html

character editor (give everyone a proton axe)
http://wasteland.rockdud.net/bin.html

manual & paragraphs
http://www.caveoftrouble.com/bear/wasteland.php

i found this in google:
survival guide:
http://www.applevault.com/software/w...gw_archive.pdf


Desert Ranger
Survival
Handbook:
1. Don't be in a hurry to waste
everyone you meet. Some of those
unruly looking characters can really
help by joining your party.
2. Always make sure you have
plenty of ammo. When you run low, get more.
AK47s are great weapons, but clubs are just as
good if you're out of ammunition.
3. Try to get your party to have all the skills be-
tween them. You'll need almost all of them to
solve the game. Also, you can never have too
many members with medical skills.
4. Practice makes perfect, if you try a skill that
should work but it doesn't, keep trying. Eventually
it will and your levels will go up with
successful use.
5. Write down everything anyone
tells you. You'll need the clues they
give to solve problems downline.
6. When low on constitution, go
into the deepest part of the desert
to recover. No one will bother you
out there while you're healing. Just
be sure you have plenty of water
with you!
7. Be careful of diseases and radia-
tion sickness. Doctors are expensive and your
medical skills only work for wounds. Radiation suits
are worth their weight in gold!
8. Go everywhere, clues are hidden in the least
likely spaces.
9. Save the game often! It's easy to die and you'll
be restored to your last save when the game res-
tarts. Back up your disks! The game writes to disk
whenever you enter a new location, so keep that
in account when venturing into unknown territory
with a depleted party.
10. Use the print utility on the key disk to keep a
list of personnel and their skills. It makes it easy to
quickly see who should be attempting various
tasks.

Hello all,

I am the person who made the second last post, for some reason my account name was changed into 'GamerGirl' for no clear reason.
I am not even female.

Anyway, reregistered again and here I am.

I have always been a fan of Post Apocalyptic games, preferrably the ones dealing with a scenario taking place after the Bomb (don't care much for magic based stuff)

As I was a big fan of the Fallout games I also wanted to find out more about the game that pretty much 'started' the series.

To bad the sequel 'Fountain of Dreams' was such a different game, furthermore 'psychopathic clows' as opponents?
What were these guys using when they came up with the storyline for this game?

'Escape from Hell' was a complete different game despite using the same engine (I think), so that doesn't count.

I hope we get news soon from Inxile that they have started work on a new Wasteland RPG, I don't mind if it is a remake as I like the idea of exploring Post Nuclear Nevada and taking on the forces of Base Cochise.

BTW, has anyone ever written down all the dialogue in the original game, or downloaded all the stats of the opponents?

The Survival Guide wasn't any better than most of the walkthroughs gamers and magazines made and it lacks this information.

I still would like to see a guide that includes all this information, nineteen years after the original release.

What the hell, why does this freeze so damn much? The game didn't freeze back when I played it on a dinosaur PC and it actually freaking lagged because our computer sucked so much, so why is it crashing now?

It's not exactly constant, but it's frequent enough to be annoying. I've lost tons of progress because of this several times while trying to start a game with this copy.

Why does my character fall and suffer damage when attempting to use a pickaxe/shovel/crowbar on some rocks/rubble in the cave?
Pretty darn silly.
And why does someone appear behind a pile of rubble in the cave but it is seemingly impossible to interact with them in any way?
Arrggh.
Very frustrating.

Wow ... I remember playing this game way back when I was a kid !

I remember selling off all my guns and equipping my chars with knives instead .. (In my young mind, I thought knives did more damage than guns x_x) looking back at it now, I'm surprised I managed to finish the game using short-range weapons like that .. I even managed to kill everyone in the Citadel, although that took quite alot of luck and reloading the game when someone from my party was torn to shreds by a rocket launcher <.<;

Beautiful game, wonderful memories ... thank you Abandonia !! ^_^

The New wasteland should be good, Brian Fargo, guy in charge of Fallout (and helped produce original Wasteland) made InXile studios, and bought the wasteland licnse from EA, I expect majic from mr Fargo

Also, jsut a tid bit, theres a guy in Wasteland named Faron Brygo, guess who he's based off of!

lol

Wish Bethesda, now that they own the Fallout license, would release Fallout 1 as freeware, i's 11 years old, thats what they did with Arena when they released Oblivion, as a promotional, so hopefully, the week before Fallout 3's released (october 7th) they'll release Fallout fo' free son

And wasteland supposibly isn't technically free (apparently) but I think when a games 20 years old, it kinda reaches that "free" point, dont cha think?

just downloaded tonight

InXile, the same people who made the hideous remake of A Bard's Tale, no thanks.

Woah woah woah! The new Bards Tale isnt hideous. I do know that its got nothing to do with Bards Tale, but If you forget that, its a nicely written hack n' slash.

Listen Chosen, the remake was crap. There is no way you can even mention that game to another Bard's Tale fan without him crying in misery.

I can't "forget" that it's supposed to be A Bard's Tale because that's the freaking title. They should have named it something else instead, like "Pythonesque RPG With Cleavage And Coin" because it wasn't even that fun to play.

Snowblind engine games bore me to hell.

hey hey hey!!

Brian Fargo is the director of InXile, and guess who he is

The Luminecent-figure-in-the-distance that brought us Fallout and Fallout 2, and also helped wasteland!

So I actually think he can actually make a good Wasteland 2

I know who Brian Fargo is.
He may have "brought" us Fallout, but he didn't directly work on them, which doesn't make him a good game designer in my eyes.
There were also around three other designers on Wasteland. Honestly the guy gets too much credit and the people that did more work never get mentioned as much.

you mean never get mentioned at all

I still play this game to this day! I've got such a good system of beating the game that I can stroll through it realativly easy.

If anyone would like I could write up something quick on Skills and were to go in what order so that by the time you are in the Sewers you are all equipped with Power Armour (AC 14) and have weapons that you just stroll up and smack down everything! :)

Still one of my favorite games of all time! I've been wishing for a remake ever since the Fallout series came out.

The fact that the story is stored in the manual in paragraphs as opposed to being ingame kinda ticked me off but otherwise, It's a GREAT game , A remake of this would be great :D And if you wouldn't mind that would be great

Kind of off topic, but theres a group of ppls making a Fallout 1 remake called "Shelter" (Fallout, Shelter, fallout shelter..haha) and the game looks really really promising, search it on Youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMAYQMuKUF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJhjlm8V4s&feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uypKnhkqlxY&feature=user

Im goona download it when they finish, looks great

Wasteland
 

I played this game when I was a kid on the commodore 64. This was THE GAME that got me addicted to video games. I played it for hours on end, the storyline and gameplay for the time was great. I think of this game often as an adult and look forward to purchasing fallout 3 in a few days and returning to the twisted bedlam of my youth.

wasteland
 

Played this game way back in the 80s i think... simple graphics.. great storyline... defeintely worth replaying again

Can't seem to download
 

Is there anyone out there that can help me download this? I bought it too back in the 80s (C64) and loved it, was looking here at all the old stuff and wanted to try it again but no dice, can't seem to click the download link.

If you can help email is angushelps at yahoo dot com

Thanks Much

Angus

You can't download Wasteland. Brian Fargo's inXile entertainment has acquired the rights, so it is protected.

weres the buton 4 download

There is none.

http://abandonia.com/themes/abandonia/nogo.gif

See: http://abandonia.com/en/faq

O supremacy, are you so wrong! This is the game of games, just think of the plot, the development of the characters, the development of the story. Who gives a crap about the graphics or that you must read paragraphs from a paper. This is a fu**ing C64-game. It is all about playability, if you believe it, it is REAL!
Wastladwarrior

"This is the game of games"

...Then you only mention story-related things being good.

It's the "game of books" then, perhaps. Not saying games can't have good a good story, but seriously now. The main ingredient of a game is...? Yes, of course, GAMEPLAY.

One of the best CRPG of all times.
 

This game, along with the Bards Tale series and the early Ultimas, is probably the best Computer-Roleplaying Game of all time. I still play it on a regular basis. NO game made after this one has a story that dense and intense. The sense of humour is wicked. Fallout 3, look at this and see how you totally absolutely fail!!!!

Are there any patches or remakes for this? Wish there was an Apple IIgs or Amiga version of this game. I hate games where you have to choose between the EGA graphics of DOS or the audio of C64.

I'm surprised this game didn't have an Amiga version - the Amiga one would nearly certainly have had better graphics and sound!

I doubt there's any proper remakes so we'll just need to play the game the way it is now.

Game Guide
 

I found this nice FAQ/Walkthough the other day. Best one I have seen, yet!

http://user.tninet.se/~jyg699a/wasteland.html#items

Only Star Control 2 ranks higher in my book.

Thanks for posting that walkthrough hehe!
Now I gotta figure out whats wrong with mine. I cant seem to play for more than 15 minutes or so before the game locks up on me.
Time to make a save macro I guess!

The best game I've ever played in my opinion. When I first played it, which was a good 20 years ago, I was hooked. No other game has captured my imagination like Wasteland.

I still own the original box, disks, manuals, etc :-D

wow, is the manual different from the one we have on site? or are there more of them?

do you think you could make scans of the box and disks for us?=P

Why don't you register yourself an account here, you'll find it is much more rewarding?

Get the C64 version
 

Get this on Commodore 64, download an emulator and play this in 16 colours instead of 4 and with 4 channel sound instead of PC beeps. There was a short period where C64 games beat the pants of their PC equivalent! Then EGA and Creative came along and it all changed.....!

Wasteland has an EGA mode, and it looks better than the C64 version. It's true that is has an CGA mode as well, and even 16-colour CGA composite, but more graphics modes are an advantage, not a disadvantage.

wait, waste has EGA? how do i turn it on?

It is on if you didn't set CGA in your DOSBox configuration. The download is missing the other graphics mode anyway.

I also still have the manuals/box, and even the official map/hint book from EA.

You guys should put up links to the Apple 2 version as well. I remember being able to recopy single sides so I could replay certain locations without having to do a full restart. (I'm not sure the PC version allows you to replay the game with your characters once it was finished.)

Anyways, awesome game - one of the best ever.

you can post the apple version so i can update it as an extra :)

this has got to be one of the best games I have recently played! I like it so much! :lol:

Before ANYONE plays this game they MUST download the PDF of the manual, otherwise they will get no-where fast.
It plays very little like what we are used to in most modern RPG's, and it took me a lot of reading to find out what all the skills did.

Tips for somewhat advanced players
 

Here's a few exploits, tricks and tips for people struggling a bit. I haven't read the entire thread, so there may be repeats in here.

1. The cause of the crashes is the mouse. Find a way to disable the mouse BEFORE the game loads, and learn the hotkeys instead. It's worth the extra effort. On that note, can somebody please post how to disable mouse in D-Fend Reloaded, which is what I'm using?

2. If you'd like to reset the game but keep your characters equipment/money, note the following. The game covers two disks. Disk 1 is the desert, Highpool, Quartz, Needles, Ag Centre, and Mine. Disk 2 is Guardian Citadel, Las Vegas, Darwin, and any of the hidden map locations. Can't remember the rest, but it's not important.

So the game states are saved in particular files, which I think are Game1 for Disk 1, and Game2 for Disk 2 (if it's not game1/2, it's another pair of files with 1 and 2 numbering). Enter a Disk 2 area, Guardian Citadel is a good choice since simply entering is not dangerous. Copy the original Game1 file off the site over the Game1 file in your directory. Then go back to the desert, and copy the original Game2 file over the one in your directory.

If all goes well, everything will be as new, except you will have your party in it's present state, including NPCs (which you can recruit duplicates of), items and money. If it screwed up, and you forgot to back up your files, you should have remembered to back up your files.

3. If you have some knowledge of how the game works, and you want a super powerful character, simply take a single character from the start of the game, who uses only melee weapons. Melee kills are double xp, and since your single character will be getting all the xp for every single kill, you'll quickly become very high level. Just take brawling 1, grind a bit in the easier areas until you get Brawling 2, and use the rest of your skill points on utility skills. With some careful planning, you can get every single skill that is even slightly useful, as long as you skip all of the various firearm skills. If you're careful, this one character can take any enemy or group of enemies in the game, without cheating. You'll need four characters at the very end of the game, but you'll find something that can help with that along the way. It needs a skill with the initials CT to use, and is in a hidden (but fairly safe) area.

One point that I forgot to mention: due to a bug, one of the enemies in the area around the enemy base can't be hit by melee weapons. You might consider investing in 1 point of Energy Weapons, and carrying one of the top end energy weapons and a couple of power packs, in case you run into this enemy.

I've been merrily playing this game for a fair while now and I've noticed that it keeps freezing every now and then when I enter combat. In the beginning this happened so rarely that it didn't bother me much, but now every time I play the game its almost guaranteed to freeze at some point. The only option I have when this happens is to quit Boxer (I'm on a macbook), often losing some progress as a result. I wonder if any one else is having this particular problem, and if so, is there a solution to it?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm beginning to get frustrated to the point where I wonder whether it's worth continuing the game with the freezing so frequent :(.

I had that problem too. Alt + Tab for Fullscreen modus right at the title screen solved it.

It seems so many people can't find their way INTO the cave, my problem is getting OUT.

Found the cave in Highpoint, killed the dog, got some jewerly... wandered my way to the back of the cave and found someone.

When I go into encounter mode they ask me to lead them out.

Uh how? the only thing I can do is attack them!

Also, how do you heal in this game? Is there any way I can just hit space or something to pass time to speed up healing? Between the dog and slipping on rocks... everyone is really beat up...

Hardcore Gaming 101 community presents: Game Club 199X.

http://www.mediafire.com/?gwfr01bm8wr6vj9

A second episode of a community project, where we play a randomly picked game out of many hand-picked titles and play that for a month without using any cheats, faqs, guides, walkthroughs or emulation tricks live savestates. Then 3 members make an hour-long (or so) podcast about it.

And as you can probably guess, this episode is about Wasteland. It features xerxes and Snarboo, who were part of the first episode, and yours truly. Enjoy.

I just wanted to notify community here that Brian Fargo is making Wasteland 2 if enough people pledge through Kickstarter.

Please go to:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2

It is already backed with $600k out of $900k needed after 27 hours.

If you would like to finally get some old school cRPG made please consider pledging some amount which will grant you a game already at $15.

Box version is $50 and CE version $100.

Best,

This is due to the mouse. Anyone know of a way to disable mouse in DOSBox/D-Fend Reloaded?

You need to Hire them. Note that you won't be resolving any quests by hiring this person, you'll just be getting an NPC.

Hold down Esc. If you want an easy way to do it, use a macro. That is, hold CTRL and press a function key, F1-F10. Hold down Esc. After a while, press CTRL+F1 again, and next time you just have to push F1 to rest. Make sure you make the macro in a safe place, obviously.

Does anyone know about the book guide that was released for Wasteland?

Wasteland Survival Guide

I cannot find any references to it.


Thx very much in advance

I've contributed! Admins, any chance we could get something about this in the main page News feed?

Its been on several news sites, there's a thread about it here and it has already been mentioned on this sites Twitter and Facebook. I think people know by now.

Hate to be a bother, but it seems ze link is down. I too would like the fuller version of wasteland.

Hi, I've found this commercial BACKUP copy while scouring the interwebs. It's meant for educational and informational purposes only:

[*SNIP* NO. READ THE RULES.]

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