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red_avatar 19-09-2010 04:44 PM

GOG.com shut down
 
I'm very surprised ... I own many dozens of games on GOG.com and always supported them when I could. Great company who made an effort to get their games working on modern systems so we could enjoy all those timeless classics. I didn't think they'd ever shut down ...

TotalAnarchy 19-09-2010 05:01 PM

And they finally added a game that I really wanted, Age of Wonders :\ Well, it was also added to Impulse, so not all is lost.

BranjoHello 19-09-2010 05:03 PM

In my book this is great news, now we can host bunch of games that were available before the GOG, and people can have them for FREE like it should be. :2thumbs:

Frodo 19-09-2010 05:09 PM

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO

:crybaby:


How \ Where did you hear about this, Red?


I always supported them as well. I had loads of games with them. Their games always worked in Vista, when I couldn't get them working otherwise.


This is a sad day. :(


EDIT: The GOG page finally loaded, and I saw the message. :(
At least they will allow everyone to re-download their games. Hope that comes soon.

red_avatar 19-09-2010 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BranjoHello (Post 414098)
In my book this is great news, now we can host bunch of games that were available before the GOG, and people can have them for FREE like it should be. :2thumbs:

Except GOG FIXED games. Good luck fixing those yourself ... Not to mention that they got hold of lots of cool extras that you wouldn't find anywhere as well.

Frodo: on their Twitter they posted a weird message a few days ago, and there was a long message on their site before it buckled under the pressure of visitors. Their facebook page is also covered in people being surprised.

Panthro 19-09-2010 05:25 PM

This is a very sad day.

I had high hopes for that little company, and had bought a hell of a lot of games.

Guess I'll be downloading them as quick as I can before their servers are shut for good.

Absolutely gutted.

It was supposed to be the big stand against DRM, and it's failed. What hope now?

tomimt 19-09-2010 05:47 PM

What? They didn't even send an e-mail notice about this. Luckily I only bought two games from them, but I'd like to re-download them none the less.

The Fifth Horseman 19-09-2010 06:11 PM

http://www.gog.com/
Quote:

Dear GOG users,

We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.

We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.

This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.

On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.

All the best,
GOG.com Team
Either
a) It's a marketing ploy
b) They're going to change their business model or
c) GOG is really shutting down.

TheChosen 19-09-2010 06:19 PM

Someone I know read a suggestion that this might be the end of the beta phase, considering GOG seemed to always been in Beta, and they're now moving to "Real phase". He and I say its very unlikely, however.

EDIT: ...and it turns out we're both incorrect. Apparently, things will go on and this might be a worse case of publicity/marketing stunts.

http://kotaku.com/5642141/what-happe...good-old-games

Panthro 19-09-2010 07:09 PM

This is something worth looking at:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=240

Seems as TheChosen said, it's a stunt. A particularly poor one at that.

As much as I'd be glad if it's still alive, this sort of thing isn't good for PR at all (although it surely will get a lot of press... is all publicity good publicity?)

tomimt 19-09-2010 08:54 PM

If that's just a marketing stunt, then it's not cool at all.

Elwing 19-09-2010 09:39 PM

Such a pity - Never bought any games from them and I regret it now, nothing last forever folks!
It was an indeed good contribution to our beloved old game scene!
Hope they can come back somehow with another formula, like stated on their twitter...

EDIT: indeed, reading all the posts (as I should before posting! hehe) - is all bad publicity, good publicity? Hope they don't sell out, the games and their week-end discount were pretty awesome and cheap... Oh well...

UnconformistSheep 19-09-2010 10:27 PM

I never heard of GOG.com before...

For the benefit of anyone in my position, here's what I've gathered about them: this was a Polish company that would tweak old games to make them run on modern systems, sometimes with the help of emulators like DosBox or Scummvm. They didn't use DRM (ie. restrictions on how many copies you could make of the games).

Couldn't find a copy of their catalog though. Out of curiosity, someone please list a few games they delivered and that you couldn't be run otherwise. Also, what "modern systems" did they support: not Ubuntu I suppose? :-(

The Fifth Horseman 19-09-2010 10:34 PM

Windows. Here's a listing of their catalogue from circa 4 months ago:
list of GOG releases dated 31 June 2010

Frodo 19-09-2010 11:15 PM

If this *is* a publicity stunt, it's hardly likely to get them any new customers. :no:

rabadi 20-09-2010 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnconformistSheep (Post 414118)
Also, what "modern systems" did they support: not Ubuntu I suppose? :-(

Back when the forum was still up, I noticed quite a few threads mentioning this game or that game runs well with Wine under Ubuntu.

Oh, and although it has nothing to do with the games, they provide downloader application that is developed in Adobe Air, which while is not open source still runs in Linux.

DarthHelmet86 20-09-2010 02:09 AM

If it is them just changing to a final Gog.com rather than the beta this is a pretty bad way of doing it. A simple note saying "Hey Gog.com customers we are down while we change over to our final non-beta form, please be patient."

I am of the feeling this doesn't mean the site is down for good, rather just changing to something else done in a very silly and stupid way.

red_avatar 20-09-2010 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthHelmet86 (Post 414125)
If it is them just changing to a final Gog.com rather than the beta this is a pretty bad way of doing it. A simple note saying "Hey Gog.com customers we are down while we change over to our final non-beta form, please be patient."

I am of the feeling this doesn't mean the site is down for good, rather just changing to something else done in a very silly and stupid way.

It's very well possible the "no-DRM" part will drop then :whops: which is what made GOG so appealing to me because even IF GOG went down, all their games still remain playable. If they DO come back and add DRM, surely people will go "but you almost died once already! If we buy games NOW, we may lose them for real!"

RRS 20-09-2010 09:18 AM

Darn... rarely I see a Polish game-related project being internatonally successful, so it would be a shame to lose it.

Panthro 20-09-2010 06:12 PM

New news:
Got this on twitter from @GOGcom: "Please check http://www.gog.com/ for a small update"
On the website they have an update:
UPDATE 20.09.2010
First of all, we apologize everyone for the whole situation and closing GOG.com. We do understand the timing for taking down the site caused confusion and many users didn't manage to download all their games. Unfortunately we had to close the service due to business and technical reasons.

At the same time we guarantee that every user who bought any game on GOG.com will be able to download all their games with bonus materials, DRM-free and as many times as they need starting this Thursday.
The official statement from GOG.com's management concerning the ongoing events is planned on Wednesday. If you want to receive further information about GOG.com, please send an email to update_media@gog.com if you're a media representative or to update_users@gog.com if you're a user without a GOG account.
Two days to wait until we get answers...

TheChosen 20-09-2010 10:07 PM

And some more, from NeoGAF.

Quote:

This'll be my last post here as frankly, you guys are all obsessed with the idea of this being a stunt that you can't see how fucked up this situation really is.

http://www.bankier.pl/inwestowanie/p...ormat=detailed

I'll post this again, as the trading value (Market Cap) has been ignored (even by me) up until now. According to this, Optimus (Who own CDP I can say with utmost certainty now), have a market value of less than $6million. Even with the recent lift in their share price this company is utterly worthless. The reason? Before they bought CDP, Optimus racked up some serious debt, and took on even more to buy CDP, this has left them in a major hole financially.

As stated above, last week Optimus sold 3.5million shares and has tried to re-jig the company to transfer their debt to something less unstable, this has triggered an EGM (For this Wednesday) which on it's own, would be unexciting. However, someone appears to have bought all the shares in one block and are using their new power to force Optimus to change their company strategy. This investor is at the moment, unknown but will be revealed at the company EGM.

My opinion is that this mystery investor has called for GOG to be totally changed, possibly to have DRM introduced and to change their business model completely. This leads me to believe the investor is a publisher, but I am not sure who, but there are signs that MAY be pointing to Atari SA, CD Projekt's long term publisher partner in Europe.
Future of the GOG is not looking very bright.

The Fifth Horseman 20-09-2010 10:23 PM

He's not calculating something right, or misunderstood the page after putting it through Google Translate.
That's their market worth:
Quote:

Kapitalizacja 212 100 000 zł
As per http://www.pkobp.pl/index.php/id=waluty/section=ogol, 1 USD = 3,0079 PLN
212 100 000 PLN = 70 514 345 USD

Mutay 20-09-2010 11:41 PM

Damn! I was just to buy several games :(
I was exited 'cause those games worked in windows vista without problem and DRM-free... and very cheap.
What will happen to all the extra material that they offered with a game? We can get them from any other site?

Who can save us now? http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/cray2.gif

bobson 21-09-2010 06:05 AM

We should know in 48 hours what is going on. Press conference is scheduled for tommorow.

LINK

Scatty 21-09-2010 11:12 AM

If it's Atari Interactive who's behind buying the shares, I wouldn't be surprised. They've been arses for few years already now, especially after they got their grip on Bioware.
Money is power, and there's no one who is going to say anything against it, mostly because most don't really care. That means unfortunately that such dirty tricks as this one can be used to pursure own goals. Big Corporations ffs.

humorguy 21-09-2010 12:47 PM

2,0 will be more a steam type front end with some sort of DRM and maybe higher prices. I just think a negotiation fell apart because a publisher would not go for DRM and GOG saw the writing on the wall, that fewer and fewer titles would be signed as less publishers would allow no DRM.

The Fifth Horseman 21-09-2010 09:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRvuKjissQ

Panthro 21-09-2010 11:48 PM

I was just going to post that fifth.

Interesting addition, really makes it seem like the out-of-beta announcement.

I really hope there's no Steam style program, I don't like Steam myself and would hate to see GOG take that route.

Will have to see what happens in a few hours time...

[edit]

Someone eagle-eyed over at GameBanshee noticed this: http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/9983...durs-gate.html

Kaizo 22-09-2010 05:03 AM

Steam is okay, but the friends service goes down a bit too much. This was a rather shoddy way of going to GOG 2.0, but hopefully it'll stay up and running with a new coat of paint and Baldurs' Gate.

RRS 22-09-2010 08:06 AM

Darn, it looks just like me playing Railroad Tycoon 2. I lay the tracks optimally, I micromanage my business well, I earn money, but I lose thanks to... stock market.

Fcuk you, corporatism!

Panthro 22-09-2010 04:52 PM

Well it's official, they're back with a new website and Baldur's Gate.

Bizarre thing with monk robes and such though...

tomimt 22-09-2010 05:03 PM

Wow, now they've officially handeled this opening of new era pretty poorly. Though they did get some free publicity out of it.

Japo 22-09-2010 05:45 PM

They're such colossal arseholes, they prove that God doesn't exist.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...palm_super.jpg

They deserve this:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...y-facepalm.jpg

TotalAnarchy 22-09-2010 06:51 PM

Steam, for the first time in history, all the people on the globe agree that you're not the worst download-based game store on the netsaur. :p I shall not post a link to the monk thing/frontpage they did for fear of desecrating this place and my spiritual beliefs.

Dave 22-09-2010 07:12 PM

Well, if you consider that we are talking about it and that the whole net is following this marketing operation...this is just a big success for them.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8919/applausi.gif

TotalAnarchy 22-09-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 414305)
Well, if you consider that we are talking about it and that the whole net is following this marketing operation...this is just a big success for them.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8919/applausi.gif

Yeah... but in the meantime, they lost half the links from Abandonia's gamepages that were redirecting to them since we feared they were forever broken. So now if you want to play Gobliiins, you'll be nicely redirected to DOTEmu, if you want to play Simon the Sorcerer you'll end up on Gamersgate and so on :p They have similar services, NO DRM, low prices, the main difference may be the "client-only" for some specific stores. It was a big deal before when AB supplied 4% of the traffic to GOG. Now it's not so much, but still, people click those links to buy games, and we couldn't leave them dead. :\

Dave 22-09-2010 07:29 PM

Few cents compared to what they are gaining now :p
Free advertisement, visibility, suspence, traffic...

I don't approve the method but I must admit I'm happy to see the site won't be closed and I suspect that the GOG community will forgive them easily ;)

Japo 22-09-2010 07:49 PM

They say there's no bad or good publicity, just publicity. You know when adverts say, "everyone in the world either loves it or hates it"?



I'm not saying they're stupid, only arseholes. They sure are cheeky, though.

The Fifth Horseman 22-09-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TotalAnarchy (Post 414306)
before when AB supplied 4% of the traffic to GOG

Wat.

Panthro 22-09-2010 08:31 PM

Well, they did seem to get LOADS of free publicity from this.

So I can see the appeal.

And given that they announced BG and hinted at the likes of BG2, PST and IWD, I think they'll get more new customers than they'll lose.

Was a stupid stunt though, and I think they've realised that (hence all the apologies).

rsdworker 22-09-2010 09:11 PM

i was surprised that GOG com went down then came back with new name - its not good idea

Mutay 23-09-2010 12:23 AM

Well... now I can start breathing again...
I have mi CC ready ^^

DarthHelmet86 23-09-2010 01:24 AM

Yeah that was a bad PR stunt, a real bad one. Hopefully they throw something our way to soothe our nerves. And there better not be any DRM.

Ironlion 29-09-2010 07:04 AM

I wonder, if this were a publicly traded company, what this sort of childish move would do to investor confidence...

How infantile, and pathetic. :(

Japo 29-09-2010 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironlion (Post 414600)
I wonder, if this were a publicly traded company(

It is:
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChosen (Post 414181)
http://www.bankier.pl/inwestowanie/profile/quote.html?symbol=OPTIMUS&format=detailed


TheChosen 29-09-2010 04:05 PM

Well, they brought in Baldurs Gate and Planescape Torment and fans are pretty much orgasming now, so I guess all has been forgiven. I admit they fumbled a bit there, but now its business as usual.

And live goes on.

Japo 29-09-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChosen (Post 414618)
I admit they fumbled a bit there,

On the contrary, I think (like many or most people) that it was a publicity stunt, and it went as planned.

Xaromir 08-10-2010 06:40 AM

Just got knights and merchants from them. ( :eeee: )
And then i read the news - i was like "wtf they are still here!"
good to hear that many think that it was a (bad) marketing thing,
but is there anything official - like a "we are back in business"?

If they will went out tits up at some point will i still be able to play the games,
or is there some protection?

DarthHelmet86 08-10-2010 06:43 AM

Well they are back now, and it was a PR stunt which they admited and apologized for.

The only protection you have if they ever go belly up is to have the setup.exes saved to your computer. (No DRM means you can keep on using them.)

Xaromir 08-10-2010 07:59 AM

Ah ok thanks.
DRM really sucks, i remember buying a piece of music back then,
and i can't listen to it anymore because the company has gone out of business some years ago. :sucks:

As far as marketing goes:
3D Realms been doing that for over a decade.
"Any time now" "We are bankrupt" "No we are not" "Andy time now"
It really was all just marketing, why i do not know, but they made some brilliant games during that time,
like max payne and prey - they can't tell me that a simpleton shooter like duke nukem fornever takes over 10 years. :sucks:

Sort of worked for the duke - it's one of the most discussed games in history,
but i doubt it will work that great for a company.


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