I installed virtual PC. I have a still sealed copy of windows 95 that I am planning to open for this purpose so I can play my really old w95 games. Would it be better to borrow my friend's windows 98 copy instead? Do you think the value of that sealed w95 is somewhat good? Because if it's worth something I don't really want to open it.

Here you can find what a sealed Win95 disc is worth:

http://computers.search.ebay.com/sealed_Wi...10QQsacatZ41883

awesome, LOL. Anyways what would you recommend I use. Win 95 or 98SE?

My suggestion would be the Win98SE.

It will add just those few more games to the range of play than just plain Win95.
(first edition right? and not win95b / OSR2 or the likes)

But if you rather want to go for the older old win games (Win 3.x/95), then you should crack the seal and use Win 95.

It's all end up in Where you want to use it for.
- Only the oldest old stuff
- Old, but with long lasted compatibility. (I believe there is STILL stuff around that will work on win98SE)


The final choice is up to you. :max:

I haven't really used Win95, or at least don't remember. As for compatibility I think Win95 and Win98 will be similar if not the same since both are based on DOS 7.x (well Win95 on 7.0 and Win98 on 7.1), neither is as compatible backwards as DOS 6.x.

But you could install both in the same machine and boot one or other depending on what you want. As for Microsoft's operating systems, if one Windows is installed on top of an already installed previous version, I've heard (never tried) that the installation program will give you the option to leave both installed with a boot manager that you can configure from the latest version OS.

Anyway since DOSBox is the most convenient program to run old DOS games, the use for Virtual PC is for me limited to few instances. So I don't think you need to worry about compatibility with every single game since that's what DOSBox is for. Just my opinion though.

Go with W98 and preferably W98SE.
W95 will give you headaches to set up the VPC additions.
All W95 games run in W98SE.
But: you can't run games that need full 3D support in VPC as it only emulates a S3Virge. Games with a software mode: no problem.

After installing your OS don't forget to install the additions. (Menu 'action' -> install or update blablabla....)

Some Win3.x and Win95 games have minor issues with Win98. I recommend W95, personally.

And I don't advise installing the VPC additions. It seriously screwed up a W98 virtual machine I set up to run Chaos Gate on some time ago.

Yes they can sometimes create an issue.
But without those additional files, no pointer integration, no shared folders and no network in VPC.
Also they install better S3Virge drivers so you can get 800x600 / true colors-32 bit in W98SE.
That's even worth to have to setup if needed two VPCs.

Ok so I cracked the seal and put the win 95 cd in my dvd drive (only one besides burner). So I set up the virtual pc file for a windows 95 installation and I try to start it and it says

Reboot and select proper boot device
or insert boot media in selected device

So what am I supposed to do now?

Means your W95 CD isn't bootable.
You simply get your as* on bootdisk.com and download a W95 bootdisk that is suitable for your version of W95.
Will probably be the "Windows95 original" one.
And you boot (VPC !) from that:
-> simply input the bootdisk in your A drive.
-> or mount a flopimage.

It could also be that VPC hasn't been told to use the real CD drive as the CD drive of the virtual machine. You must have the virtual machine windowed (not fullscreen) to access the options, look in the menus or in the four icons at the bottom. If my memory serves me right there's one icon for the virtual hard drives, another for the floppies, another for the CD drives and another for the network card. Right-click on the CD one and tell VPC to use your real CD drive --you can also use images, VPC will mount them without need of any third-party program like Daemon Tools.

Also remember that VPC requires you to configre its boot sequence.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Oct 4 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]314529[/snapback]</div>The default BIOS setting will look for a bootable CD, so there's no need, just mount the CD and boot the virtual machine.

I put my money on a non bootable CD, the first Win95 weren't bootable.
If memory serves well, they only became bootable from Win95B or C (OSR2).
The others needed a bootflop.

And the message about 'insert boot media in selected device' indicates just that his CD isn't bootable and no bootflop is found..
You get another message if the HD is non bootready. (Forgot what it is in VPC, but it's clearely reffering to the HD)

I could be completely wrong of course, but I don't think so.

Alrighy thanks dosraider...

I have started with a windows 95 version 1 boot disk and it's launching the install sequence. It now loads a few things then says A:\ as in it's now idling in dos. Does anybody know what command I use now?

EDIT: Got it... installed. Thnx!

Ok another problem. It can't set up my Local Area Network (High-Speed) to work with windows. I set it up and it says try using the internet and then I try and every page I try to use it with doesn't work. So then I checked my settings and my ethernet adapter is enabled in hardware manager and in the virtual pc settings. Any ideas?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dosraider @ Oct 3 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]314465[/snapback]</div>Install Guest additions.

What will happen?
The installing of the guest additions will also add (I believe) a virtual network adapter in your host. (or something like that)
This will enable actual Internet in your host.

@all other abandonians: Please elaborate/correct this info, cause I actually never (successfully) installed a network in VPC.
(I also never "needed" Internet in my VPC's)

As said in an earlier post, Win95 is a sucker when it comes to setup networking guest/host via the additions.
You can try to install the additions in Win95, but don't expect too much of it.
That's precisely why I advised Win98SE, in Win98SE it works flawless.

I only succeeded once in VPC2004/Win95 to set them up, and got a headache doing it.
2 reboots later they were screwed up by a program I installed, so I ditched Win95 and forgot it ever existed.

But don't despair, I have to check something out, back soon .....
*Edit
Back, LOL
Check your PMs, some info for ya.

I had to install a bunch of different network adapters and change some settings in VPC and then it allowed me to use the internet!

Remember that your virtual machines are like separate machines on a LAN, so your security software in the host won't protect the guest just like it wouldn't protect a separate real machine. You need to protect your virtual machine when surfing just like the real one.

Ok. I don't really plan on surfing... just rather i-net gaming on old pc games with other friends running vpc on 95 and 98.