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Tulac 13-09-2007 12:41 AM

This is site is a sort of web site stock simulator, check it out and buy shares of abandonia and reloaded!!
http://thotmarket.com/search.php?squery=abandonia

a1s 13-09-2007 01:40 AM

bought 8029 shares of ABDN.

Tulac 13-09-2007 10:22 AM

8029? From where did you get all that cash?

I've 1400 of ar and 900 ab.

a1s 13-09-2007 11:09 AM

trading stock ofcourse. ^_^
(if you buy for low prices (like, under 0.05), the smallest changes can earn you lots of thollars... provided it a positive dynamic, I've been lucky so far.)

Tulac 13-09-2007 11:27 AM

Well return on ab was 100% for me. :P

Lulu_Jane 13-09-2007 11:47 AM

It earned me $2

EDIT: I'm an idiot, that is a 100% return.

Japo 13-09-2007 11:49 AM

Erm... I prefer Railroad Tycoon. :unsure:

Tulac 13-09-2007 12:00 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lulu_Jane @ Sep 13 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]310614[/snapback]</div>
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It earned me $2

EDIT: I'm an idiot, that is a 100% return.
[/b]
Well I have 240$ worth portfolio, you should keep less cash with yourself then.

Japofran - buy stocks it's your patriotic duty!!

Sebatianos 13-09-2007 08:01 PM

Nah, those are War Bonds Tulac, not stocks. Besides, I'm more interested in how much dividends you'll pay out (othervise I'm donating my stocks to HOTU).

Tulac 13-09-2007 08:16 PM

We've got the fattest dividend out there. :]

Blood-Pigggy 13-09-2007 08:18 PM

Also you betray us if you buy HoTU stocks.

Tulac 13-09-2007 08:24 PM

Yes and we will make trade sanctions against you.

Sebatianos 13-09-2007 08:32 PM

KA-CHING!

Every sanctions create a blackmarket (black stock market in this case) and I'll be running it MWAHAHAHAHAHA.

But seriously guys, there's something slightly disturbing I find about Thothmarket... Anybody else has that feeling?

Tulac 13-09-2007 08:36 PM

It's somewhat lame, because it doesn't say what's the number of stocks outstanding. So with IPO I own 10% of shares, 10% of what number?

_r.u.s.s. 13-09-2007 08:42 PM

http://thotmarket.com/about.php
Quote:

Can I make money?

Yes, there are plenty of ways to make money. We suggest finding a job that you enjoy, find fullfilling, and makes the world a better place.[/b]

Sebatianos 13-09-2007 08:47 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tulac @ Sep 13 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]310735[/snapback]</div>
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So with IPO I own 10% of shares, 10% of what number?
[/b]
Err... 10% of the full 100%... that would be the number you own times ten :unsure: Unless they changed the laws of math.

Tulac 13-09-2007 09:22 PM

But the point is that there isn't a finite number of shares outstanding. Normally when you IPO, you sell an exact number of shares based on demand. So if 100 000 shares would be sold in the IPO I would have 10 000. And the 90 000 would be publicly traded. But in this game it doesn't say what is the number of shares outstanding so I don't know what is the full 100%.

Japo 13-09-2007 10:15 PM

Well, there are infinite shares outstanding. You've got 10% of them, and 10% of infinite equals infinite. I don't understand your query. There are infinite shares and you've got an infinite part of it, and since each share has a finite value then you've infinitely rich --that's more so than Bill gates. It's quite clear for me.

You think all this makes no economic sense? Well quite obviously you must be deranged. :D :D

Luchsen 13-09-2007 10:49 PM

@_r.u.s.s.
I wanted to post that, but thought I would be lapidated for it - now you will. :D

Havell 14-09-2007 01:36 AM

It's still possible for Tulac to own 10% of the company, even though there's an infinite amount of shares available. The websites listed on Thotmarket are all OIECs (Open Ended Investment Companies), or mutual funds, for all you Americans out there.

It's a perfectly workable system, and it ensures that the prices of the shares fluctuate purely on the basis of the performance of the company, rather than on the supply and demand for the shares themselves (as will happen with comapanies that have fixed numbers of shares). It also means that people don't sell their shares to each other, buying and selling is handled purely by the company.

Say my friend starts a company (using the OIEC system) worth £100, he gives himself 100 shares worth £1 each. I then buy 100 shares for myself from the company for £100; meaning the company has £200 in assets and £200 worth of shares have been issued. A month later, the company has been doing rather well, now having £400 worth of cash and assets. The shares are now worth £2 each as there are still 200 of them. I decide to cash in my investment. I get £200 for my 100 shares. The company is now worth £200 (having givne half of its assets to me), but the only shares remaining are my friend's, which are still worth £2 each.

(First year Economics student here)

EDIT: Though it seems that the value of the stocks are indeed affected by their supply and demand. I can't imagine what ker-azy system they're using, thoguh it's almost certainly not one you'll find in real life. Ah well, the point still remains that it's possibe for Tulac to own 10% of a company that there are infinite shares available for. In fact, it's possible to own 100% of an OIEC, and then to find that you suddenly don't anymore as someone's come along and invested money in it without you having any control over it (besides buying even more shares to increase your share again, of course...).

GTX2GvO 14-09-2007 10:14 AM

Is it just me or are the abandonia stocks not growing in price?

http://www.thotmarket.com/images/ticker/ABDN.png http://www.thotmarket.com/images/ticker/AR.png

At least my The Black Den Shares are growing. :sneaky:

http://www.thotmarket.com/images/ticker/TBD4GTX.png

And I put them on the market for $3.15 per share. :max:

Tulac 14-09-2007 10:45 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Havell @ Sep 14 2007, 03:36 AM) [snapback]310805[/snapback]</div>
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Say my friend starts a company (using the OIEC system) worth £100, he gives himself 100 shares worth £1 each. I then buy 100 shares for myself from the company for £100; meaning the company has £200 in assets and £200 worth of shares have been issued. A month later, the company has been doing rather well, now having £400 worth of cash and assets. The shares are now worth £2 each as there are still 200 of them. I decide to cash in my investment. I get £200 for my 100 shares. The company is now worth £200 (having givne half of its assets to me), but the only shares remaining are my friend's, which are still worth £2 each.
[/b]
Yeah but these funds are mostly used to invest in other stocks/bonds/currencies. They wouldn't be practical for running a single company.

The Fifth Horseman 14-09-2007 11:23 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blood-Pigggy @ Sep 13 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]310729[/snapback]</div>
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Also you betray us if you buy HoTU stocks.
[/b]
Except... We could do it and cause HOTU's stock to become nearly worthless. :P
1. Buying out as much of it as possible -> 2. selling out all of them at once -> 3. should create a sudden major drop in their worth -> 4. start a domino effect as owners sell out their shares to avoid further losses -> 5. go back to 3. and repeat. :whistling:

_r.u.s.s. 14-09-2007 11:24 AM

forums war :w00t:

GTX2GvO 14-09-2007 11:33 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(_r.u.s.s. @ Sep 14 2007, 01:24 PM) [snapback]310887[/snapback]</div>
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forums war :w00t: [/b]
Except that they Don't know about Thothmarket on HotU. :sneaky: :ph34r:

@Fifth: Let's do it. :devil:


Tulac 14-09-2007 11:38 AM

I don't think we have enough cash for that. :P

The Fifth Horseman 14-09-2007 11:40 AM

Then let's start investing! :max:

_r.u.s.s. 14-09-2007 11:43 AM

i still dont get it :(

GTX2GvO 14-09-2007 12:11 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(_r.u.s.s. @ Sep 14 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]310892[/snapback]</div>
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i still dont get it :( [/b]
:blink: What is it you actually don't get???

- The Buying of Shares
- The Selling of Shares
- Issuing your own Shares. :bleh:
- Or how a Stock market Works :blink: :blink:

In that last case I have an old game that might be useful to home your skillz. :sneaky:
Called: Broker. I believe it's in German. (at least the cover is, game can be in english, or not....)
Haven't played it in a while (win3.11), but Thoth reminded me of this INSTANTLY. ^_^

[EDIT]Word of warning. Don't try to sell for more than $100,- in stock. You'll be taxed if you would continue. Best would then be to sell one part now and the rest after 15 minutes.[/EDIT]

Data 14-09-2007 01:44 PM

nice concept.

I bought some stocks of my favorite websites:
abandonia
reloaded
dosbox
wikipedia

Luchsen 14-09-2007 02:29 PM

My USA thot rose from $0.25 to $0.90. LOL

http://www.thotmarket.com/images/ticker/US.png

The Fifth Horseman 14-09-2007 02:32 PM

Small tip to anyone interested: OGRU gives pretty fast profits.

Tulac 14-09-2007 03:33 PM

I've earned 400% on PATRIOTS, it's good to find those sites for which you know that their community will be buying stocks thus raising the price.

Luchsen 14-09-2007 07:57 PM

I've made 1345% profit with STRWRS. :omg2:

[edit] Okay... 2334%... [edit]

Sebatianos 15-09-2007 04:47 PM

So what's the deal... I can not buy more then 100.000 shares of some thots :angry: I want to get more of some of them

Tulac 15-09-2007 05:01 PM

They're probably trying to prevent speculation.

Japo 15-09-2007 09:27 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tulac @ Sep 15 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]311095[/snapback]</div>
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They're probably trying to prevent speculation.[/b]
L0L0L Then what's the whole thing about? LOL Kinda beats the purpose. The money is fake anyway so there should be no worries.

Luchsen 16-09-2007 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThotBlog

Some changes have been made. Hopefully some of them are temporary. For example, there’s currently a hard cap on the initial value of a new thot ($1000). Also, there is currently a cap on the number of shares of a given thot that can be purchased by one user (100,000 shares).


The Fifth Horseman 18-09-2007 10:18 AM

Quote:

Bank Balance: $34462499.22

Portfolio Value: $12520844000.00

Net Worth: $12555306499.22[/b]
LOL

Quote:

09-18-2007 (Tue) Massive Windfall Tax -$35465917.30[/b]
LOL

Quote:

Bank Balance: $248.88

Portfolio Value: $12243144411.36

Net Worth: $12243144660.24[/b]
:P :P :P

Tulac 18-09-2007 11:28 AM

ZOMG is all I can say.

The Fifth Horseman 18-09-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Bank Balance: $36788425111611080.00

Portfolio Value: $4046726942570020864.00

Net Worth: $4083515367681631744.00[/b]
LOL
The system is obviously flawed.

Lulu_Jane 18-09-2007 12:06 PM

Yes, especially seeing as I've only made $21 LOL

The Fifth Horseman 18-09-2007 01:21 PM

The trick is to keep checking the cheapest shares until you see one with a negative value. Then buy 100000. Rather than costing you money, they give it... and a LOT!!!

Tulac 18-09-2007 01:29 PM

LOL
Bank balance
999999999997072600.00

It sure is broken. I can't even spell that number, is it quatrillions?

The Fifth Horseman 18-09-2007 02:41 PM

No idea. Probably more than all thots posted are worth together anyway. :P

Tulac 18-09-2007 02:55 PM

Hahaha they just taxed me and now my cash is 100 000$ ButI invested in hundreds of millons worth of stocks so it's no biggie.







Luchsen 18-09-2007 02:57 PM

http://www.thotmarket.com/images/ticker/LAMOR.png

:blink:

The Fifth Horseman 18-09-2007 02:59 PM

:huh: No idea how MidniteNeko does that.

Tulac 18-09-2007 03:15 PM

They sure have some serious bugs to fix.

_r.u.s.s. 18-09-2007 03:32 PM

a book "how to become a gazzilionare", only 39.45$ at your local stores :D

Luchsen 18-09-2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thotmarket
09-18-2007 (Tue) Purchased Shares (LAMOR) -$0.00
09-18-2007 (Tue) Dividend Award (LAMOR) +$1000.00

You own: 100000 shares
($1000.00 valuation)

:hysterical:

Luchsen 20-09-2007 03:51 PM

I had to pay Windfall Tax half an hour before it was removed. :ranting:

Sebatianos 20-09-2007 04:43 PM

Heh, it's so nice to be the bigest share owner out there.

Anyway, now you can see the numbers of shares out there for every thot (abandonia has about 1.400.000) shares at the moment.

GTX2GvO 24-09-2007 08:47 AM

I CONTROLL THE HotU THOT!!!!!! :brain: :sneaky:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5...ollhotusi4.png

Now what? :huh:

How do I kill it?? :butcher:

TheChosen 24-09-2007 10:11 AM

Oooh...virtual stocks. That sounds cool.

I already made some good money from the Abandonia stocks, so I decided to start my own corportation based on my blog.

Please?

GTX2GvO 24-09-2007 10:21 AM

Just (1)70 shares??

That's pathetic. Already bought them all.

Got more?? :sneaky:

GTX2GvO 24-09-2007 11:17 AM

TheChosen, Thanks for your Thot.
I'll take good controll of it. :sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky:

Luchsen 24-09-2007 11:20 AM

You are a hostile takeoverer! :D

GTX2GvO 24-09-2007 11:24 AM

So. How should I edit HotU's description? :devil:

TheChosen 24-09-2007 11:40 AM

Youre mean!

No matter what you say, It will not affect on how I'l write my blog in future!

GTX2GvO 24-09-2007 11:43 AM

Oh, just shut up and write more Blog.

Make me earn more Thot-money! :whip:


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