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Romano 03-10-2006 10:27 PM

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and Download (if available)

Drake3 05-10-2006 03:58 AM

It seems like a cool little game.

I have an issue with being unable to ready the text that has gone by, is there a command to scroll up in the command box? (Or at least to display information in small pieces, like /p for dos?) I searched around in the manual a little and was unable to find any mention of this, but I only searched a little. It is kinda silly to type "help" and need help reading the help since it is too long so it all scrolls off except a small bit. LOL

Thanks in advance.

Runescope 06-10-2006 02:52 PM

I used to play this game all the time. I got so good that I could send one StarFleet Dreadnaught up against 8 Klingon Dreadnaughts ans survive with little or even somtimes (very rarely) no damage. :ok:

Oh, and to se the rest of the text on the screen, type in "text", and for most of the commands you don't ahve to type in the full command, just using the first three letters is usually enough. like when you're targeting a particular ship.

einherjar 06-10-2006 04:32 PM

As far as I can tell it's not possible to slow down the passage of text when you enter a help command. The guide is pretty much the only set of instructions available, as I couldn't find the full manual anywhere on the internet.

Runescope 06-10-2006 07:09 PM

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As far as I can tell it's not possible to slow down the passage of text when you enter a help command. The guide is pretty much the only set of instructions available, as I couldn't find the full manual anywhere on the internet.
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No, you can't slow down the passage of text when you enter the "help" command. What you need to do is type in "text" and that will hide the graphical display and show all text.

Runescope 06-10-2006 07:10 PM

If someone needs help with this, I'll do what I can, it's been a while since I played but I can remember most of the commands and what they do.

email is ********@****.**

Drake3 06-10-2006 11:14 PM

No, I think I have it understand it now.

Thanks for your help runescope. The text command is exactly what I needed. :max:

Hehe, 1 dreadnought vs. 8 eh? I will have to try that just to see how much I get stomped. Definately doesn't sound like a good tutorial battle. :blink:

Runescope 07-10-2006 03:46 AM

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No, I think I have it understand it now.

Thanks for your help runescope. The text command is exactly what I needed. :max:

Hehe, 1 dreadnought vs. 8 eh? I will have to try that just to see how much I get stomped. Definately doesn't sound like a good tutorial battle. :blink:
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Well, I must admit, I WAS exploiting a small glitch in the game to do it. ^_^

Runescope 07-10-2006 02:45 PM

BTW, I have the advanced tactical manual for anyone that wants it. :ok:

Drake3 07-10-2006 10:47 PM

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BTW, I have the advanced tactical manual for anyone that wants it. :ok:
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Do you have it in electronic format? If so, how large is it? If not, don't worry about getting it onto the computer just for me, I am fine without it. :)

Guest 13-10-2006 03:05 AM

yeah, if you can get it electonically, that would be amazing!

nealarnett@gmail.com 13-10-2006 04:33 AM

omg, hey this is a cool game but i am looking for the original. not sure the name but weapon stats and many other things look the same. sorry i am a old school bbs guy and I dont really like the internet even tho it has alot of good points. can any of yall help me out?

Asyzel 04-11-2006 05:51 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Runescope @ Oct 7 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]259948[/snapback]</div>
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BTW, I have the advanced tactical manual for anyone that wants it. :ok:
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can u email me that manual? at [Edited]


I am also looking for the game Tact529 but cant seem to d/l anywhere without joining for a fee? anyone have an unmolested copy of either the original or the registred version.. I am mighty intrested in a copy... like playing it..


thanx


asyzel

Guest 05-11-2006 07:47 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Runescope @ Oct 6 2006, 02:52 PM) [snapback]259785[/snapback]</div>
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I used to play this game all the time. I got so good that I could send one StarFleet Dreadnaught up against 8 Klingon Dreadnaughts ans survive with little or even somtimes (very rarely) no damage. :ok:

Oh, and to se the rest of the text on the screen, type in "text", and for most of the commands you don't ahve to type in the full command, just using the first three letters is usually enough. like when you're targeting a particular ship.
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I think i remember using the same glitch, perhaps using a negative warp beyond the posted limits... i remember the original, dont know if they fixed it in this version. but you could evade a ship at warp -100 and its effectively pursuing them at warp 100, no heat to engines.. used effectively, could warp in, fire phasers, and be far out of their reach, while charging phasers, go in and swoop again... i didnt see mention of the little weapons called probes, i used them extensively while warping in and out since they delivered lots of damage and could be prematurely detonated with a wide beam phaser... oh yea... i sent like the smallest federation ship against 8 klingon dreadnaughts, would come out battle scars, but came out alive

Bart 10-11-2006 06:01 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Drake3 @ Oct 6 2006, 11:14 PM) [snapback]259864[/snapback]</div>
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No, I think I have it understand it now.

Thanks for your help runescope. The text command is exactly what I needed. :max:

Hehe, 1 dreadnought vs. 8 eh? I will have to try that just to see how much I get stomped. Definately doesn't sound like a good tutorial battle. :blink:
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It's been a decade or so since I played it, but the trick is to run away while zigzagging, but not running away fast enough for them to give up the chase. That way, they're running into your torpedoes, while you are running away from theirs (and can dodge them).

Wendell Dryden 07-07-2009 04:08 PM

Yahoo group
 
FYI There's a Yahoo group focused on this and other versions of Begin. It may provide more / additional information.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/...tarshipcombat/

:)

dracolisc 03-01-2010 04:50 PM

download issue
 
i downloaded it and only got the exe file.. cant get it to run d/led the guide and it says there should be 6 different files in the zip folder .. how do i get them? i tried re d/ling it twice and only got the exe file

The Fifth Horseman 03-01-2010 05:51 PM

Five files. Begin.arc is an archive that contained the others.
Whats.new is a changelog, BeginAd.txt and BeginAd2.txt are BBS text ads - all three are superfluous to the game's operation.
That leaves Begin.man... which is the manual and exactly the same thing that you downloaded labeled as the "guide" (I changed the name to proper one now).

Obviously, neither of these could have had any effect on the game's operation.

Are you running it in DOSBox?

_r.u.s.s. 03-01-2010 05:56 PM

there is only one exe file, and it runs pretty well

if you read description of the files in the original guide it says that all the other files are only text files with manual, new features for this version, adverts and a file that contains all of it packed. so the game itself is only one exe file

do you use dosbox to run it?

edit: nvm, horseman typed this along with me

dracolisc 05-01-2010 03:36 PM

yes i am using the newest version of dosbox .. when i load it c/dos/begin2/begin2.. i get the the first part of the manual .. the copyright .. donation and address info .. after that nothing.. tried just clicking on the exe but got the error "doesnt support full screen" .. [ that told me it needed dosbox ]

crwydryny 04-09-2011 05:09 PM

I used to play this all the time great for killing time when bored. my best battle was me in a lone tug against as many orion craft as could be deployed. I actually ended with a score in the thousands.
though it was a pyrrhic victory caused by me detonating my self destruct and takeing out all but about 3-4 enemy craft.
it was worth it for the look on my friend's face after setting up the battle my friend was "there see if you can win that one"
I took one look and was "humm... no problem"
friend: no shields, no weapons, no support just you
me: I can do this
*30 secconds later*
friend: what the f**k!!! you....
me: I killed more of them than they did of me
friend: but...
me: look at the score


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