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Romano 08-08-2006 10:02 PM

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

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Nightkin 08-08-2006 10:31 PM

Another awesome game here on Abandonia!
Played about 8 years ago on my Amiga. Very exciting game. You can only it once in a few years, because its more like an adventure. There is a straight storyline, and you wont find any new in replaying the game. You have always have to play the same way to finish the game.
But I dont want to write another review here ;)

Just try it. You will not be disappointed!

Mighty Midget 09-08-2006 01:54 AM

I know I wouldn't be. An old Amiga pal for me too :) Now I only need more free HDD space... But by all means, try it out you guys and gals.

MasterGrazzt 09-08-2006 04:17 AM

While this game is slightly disappointing, it's sequel, Deuteros - The Next Millenium is incredibly great. It's actually on Home of the Underdogs, but it was mainly on Atari ST (I think there was also an Amiga version), so you'll have to get an emulator (I recommend Steem)

Nightkin 09-08-2006 07:16 AM

Millenium has a sequel? :blink:
I have to try it out!

on WinUAE :ok:

Luaan 09-08-2006 07:17 AM

Yeah, I liked this one and Deuteros as well... This game is really enjoyable, but Deuteros is just great (if you don't count in that annoying 10 second messages whenever you are starting to build a space station. Thanks to AtariST, as it has accelerated mode, so you just press F12 and message transfer finished :ok: ). On the other side, this game has no "events" like random disasters or so (well, at least I didn't find any) and I also didn't quite like the thing, that you can only manufacture on one base. I always was the kind of guy that colonized even the most barren planets and moons to get bases as self-sufficient as possible. Another score point for Deuteros. But, this certainly is a very good game and you have to look over the few flaws the game has

lgonggr 09-08-2006 09:33 AM

I loved this game on the Amiga. Unfortunately, the resolution and colours on the PC version are ghastly.
Notes :
You start by mining the asteroid for minerals you lack on the moon. Probe everything, including the moon. Don't forget to build a bunker and store a power generator in it. At a certain moment in the game you will be attack by an overwhelming force which will destroy almost everyhing. If you do not have a power generator in storage in the bunker, you will be crippled afterwards.

Danny252 09-08-2006 10:29 AM

Good LORD. This was something I dl/ed off HOTU.. YEARS ago... Like.. first days of my Abw life..

I never did work out how to play :]

WolverineDK 09-08-2006 12:11 PM

aaaah I remember the game on Amiga too, and my friends always called their first probe my real name, just to tease me, and then the first probe gets lost. And then you know what the message is :) LOL :)

Guest 09-08-2006 12:36 PM

One of the BEST games ever made, deutros was far far better though... yet it never got released on the pc :\

The Fifth Horseman 09-08-2006 01:26 PM

Remember this one. Loved it.

a1s 10-08-2006 07:57 PM

I could have sworn we had this one allready.
guess I'm slowly going crazy :wacko: . (and there is no need to point me tawards HOTU I know it's on there, most of the things are).

whatshisface 11-08-2006 01:09 AM

hmm i have just started the game and i have a question, do mutations cause any problems or dissabilitys? thanks

win98 12-08-2006 08:31 PM

Whoever posted about yopu needed to store a power generator thanks alot for the tip.

vcj 12-08-2006 09:29 PM

:wallbash: :sos: Where are the best places to look for chronium in the game?

Tibike77 13-08-2006 03:01 AM

This was one of the first PC games I ever played and actually ENJOYED.

The version I played always started the solar system exactly the same each time the first time you play, but it randomizes all minerals and habitable environments once you create a new game... can't recall what planets/moons you find anything useful on, but it's worth probing each and every astronomical body you can probe anyway.

Oh, and the Martians only attack you AFTER you launch your first craft... so, if you want to drag it a little (and have an easier start), first build up a good stock of whatever you might want/need and research everything you can BEFORE launching the first craft from the surface of the moon :)

Arco349 14-08-2006 02:27 AM

After you defeat the huge Mars armada, do you win the game? Or do you win when you somehow colonize Earth?

Cloudy 14-08-2006 09:25 PM

Looking at the comments here, the review and the screenshots, this game reminds me a bit of Reunion, with older graphics. Looks interesting though, I'll give it a go :P

The Fifth Horseman 16-08-2006 03:30 PM

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After you defeat the huge Mars armada, do you win the game?
Or do you win when you somehow colonize Earth?[/b]
The latter.

Mackus 19-08-2006 07:19 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tibike77 @ Aug 13 2006, 03:01 AM) [snapback]248222[/snapback]</div>
Quote:

This was one of the first PC games I ever played and actually ENJOYED.

The version I played always started the solar system exactly the same each time the first time you play, but it randomizes all minerals and habitable environments once you create a new game... can't recall what planets/moons you find anything useful on, but it's worth probing each and every astronomical body you can probe anyway.

Oh, and the Martians only attack you AFTER you launch your first craft... so, if you want to drag it a little (and have an easier start), first build up a good stock of whatever you might want/need and research everything you can BEFORE launching the first craft from the surface of the moon :)
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Tibike77, Martians WILL attack human player, even if he dont launch any spacecraft, i know, because I tested it

Micmag 22-08-2006 11:15 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vcj @ Aug 12 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]248174[/snapback]</div>
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:wallbash: :sos: Where are the best places to look for chronium in the game?
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Have been looking for this game since i sold my amiga 15 yaers ago... Finally i found WinUAE :brain:

Chromium can onlu be found on Triton. About the bunker!! Dont waste time and resources building it. When the attack comes, simply jump to the power management module and switch to the lowest one. The other ones wont be destroied. You also should have a Carrack (with crew) in the hangar. All dies under the attack, but afterwords you simply discard the Carrack, put the SolarX back an you are back on line.. :sneaky:

Good planets to harvest is Leda for Uranium. Callisto for Alluminium, Titanium and Iron. Miranda for Silver and Triton for Chromium. All other planets and moons are more expensive to Collonise than the resources you get access to. After all, you will need 1200 Silver(Miranda) and 9800 Iron(Callisto) for the fligth Carryer and 220 Chromium(Triton) for the terraformer. Everything else is about Aluminium and Titanium. Building a S.I.O.S and a transport Carrack costs more of these resources than it will give back.

Well well, hope i havent spoiled the game for anyone. I play the game on a regulary basis, ons a year or so. I newer think i will get tired of this game.. A clean story line and always somthing new to do. Not like Deuteros wher you have to clean out the complete solar system, and when you are done you just has to play the same game again in a new solar system.. When you come to the 4. or 5. solar system it just getting more and more borring doing the same thing over. (There are 10 solar systems zzz) :wallbash:

Just a tip. If you start finding Millenium borring, take a chalange. Finish the game within 5 years..

Greate Game :ok:

Guest 12-09-2006 05:02 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vcj @ Aug 12 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]248174[/snapback]</div>
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:wallbash: :sos: Where are the best places to look for chronium in the game?
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Triton is the only place where you could find chrom
probe all planets to find out which ressources there are !

But Question from me:
I've build some Terraformer,
but couldn't transport them (1060t)
Carrack only transports 1000t
and Fleet 1050t
so what did I have to do to gen next (last) research ???
PS I've having every possible colony

Guest 12-09-2006 08:18 PM

i never played this on my amiga but deuteros is brilliant.

The Fifth Horseman 13-09-2006 03:25 PM

The Terraformer is used only once (you'll need it to win the game). There will be a design of a vessel - a modified Fleet Carrier - for you to transport it to Earth, but that's on the very end of the game. I think the design will appear after you beat the final Martian fleet heading towards the Moon.

Guest 13-09-2006 04:06 PM

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The Terraformer is used only once (you'll need it to win the game). There will be a design of a vessel - a modified Fleet Carrier - for you to transport it to Earth, but that's on the very end of the game. I think the design will appear after you beat the final Martian fleet heading towards the Moon.
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i don't have been any attack's - since many years

i defeated the martian fleet once, and after them
they give up, so i could colony the mars ..

since them nothing is happenend !
i've colonized every possible planet
on everyone is the mining working
and also defence is there ..

but no new research is coming for "vessel?" :(

Guest 13-09-2006 04:52 PM

oh i just found out
you have to LAND your Fighter on Moon
than he tells you more ...

and a nice fight against the ~250 Martians ^^

mussie 17-09-2006 01:47 PM

I bought the original of both games YEARS ago, They ended up being thrown out along with my buggered 1040STFM.

After getting the itch a while back I started searching for it and found a bunch of stuff
I use Steam for emulating the ST and WinUAE for the Amiga

Below is where you can get disc images and data on Deuteros and Millennium 2.2

Amiga HDD File For Emulators:

EXCELLENT Deuteros Page With:
Links To Download A Disk Image For ST Emulators
Data on Production and Resources (Also has this data available as an MS Access Database)
CAREFUL SPOILER


EXCELLENT Millennium 2.2 Page With:
Links To Download A Disk Image For ST Emulators
Data on Production and Resources (Also has this data available as an MS Access Database)
CAREFUL COULD BE A SPOILER

Be careful as two different versions of Deuteros I have downloaded had bugs in them they have crashed and I have not been able to continue on (sorry dont remember which versions are bugged). I lost 6 hours work and had to start from scratch.

When using an emulator save the emulators state often. I had my good copy stuff up the other night, but it was not the image it was an issue with the emulator, because I was saving the emulators state and not using the ingame save option (quicker) The problem was present when I restarted it. I went back through my different state saves and found a good one, I was then able to progress past the point where the problem had started.

Later all have fun

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BTW I found this its interesting not important
This below data from Moby Games

Millennia: Altered Destinies (1995), <-- Ian Bird worked on this and judgeing by the name it looks like its based on Millennium 2.2

Millennium: Return to Earth (1991), Paragon Software Corporation <-- This looks like a rerelease of the original Millennium 2.2

Millennium: Return to Earth (1989), Activision, Inc. <-- This is the original Millennium 2.2
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Bryan Smith 28-11-2006 04:30 AM

There is some replayability. :)

When you start a new game, immediately select "new game". The planets will rotate, and the planets and moons will have different characteristics. (I'm playing a game with stations on Mercury and Venus - definitely a different feel!)

I don't know why, but this game has one of the highest "addiction factors" = "I really have to go to bed but I can't stop playing" of any game I've played in 30 years - ever since the original Atari system came out circa 1976!

Thanks Abandonia!

Guest 09-01-2007 04:28 PM

I am Majklord from czech republic, this game i played before 15 years, therefore i know universe, proste je to bozi gamesa a paril sem ji moc a moc

Mighty Midget 10-01-2007 11:28 PM

I can't remember: Is the game's events driven by building new bases, or time only? What I mean is, is it neccessary to build bases to dig up artifacts/blueprints/whatever, or will they all come to you in due time?

mussie 30-01-2007 07:33 AM

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I can't remember: Is the game's events driven by building new bases, or time only? What I mean is, is it neccessary to build bases to dig up artifacts/blueprints/whatever, or will they all come to you in due time?
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Its event driven

Guest 10-02-2007 03:14 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mussie @ Jan 30 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]277117[/snapback]</div>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Jan 11 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]274248[/snapback]
Quote:

I can't remember: Is the game's events driven by building new bases, or time only? What I mean is, is it neccessary to build bases to dig up artifacts/blueprints/whatever, or will they all come to you in due time?
[/b]

Its event driven
[/b][/quote]

More precisely, events are driven by your actions, not by "time" per se. Building bases will get you the Fleet Carrier and Martian Flu (make sure to thoroughly -squelch- that particular bug the instant it hits; don't let ships stay docked at bases unless loading or unloading until that's done, and scrap your rescue ship immediately after delivering the vaccine. I spent most of the game worrying about vaccines till I realized that the ships were carrying the bug...), beyond that you need to take different actions to trigger different events.

To get the modified fleet carrier, you need to build the Terraformer first. The Martian armada has nothing to do with it (except that it usually comes while you're building the Juggernaut. Have a fleet of fighters and a full complement of Orbital Lasers ready before you even start on the Terraformer...or do what I did and simply keep an ark ready to repopulate the moon).

Fatih 01-03-2007 01:50 PM

i recently started to replaying (last time i played is 10 years ago i guess), and i have some questions;

1- can we send life support mobule to another outposts ? because i tryed but it isnt let me to send.

2- can we attack the marsians ? like send fleet carrier with 20 fighters ? and if we can destory them can we colonize their planet and their moons ?

ED?T: answer for question 2- i attack the marsians and defeat them and i colonize their planet. so no need for an answer for that anymore :)

3- can we use terraformer in other planets or moons besides earth, to make them habitable ?

ED?T: 4- i send 5 probes to scan meteors, but they havent finish it, so is it impossible to scan meteor ring ?

and for the last, i see in this topic that the millenium have a sequel. i look the link posted by mussie, but i dont think i can manage that emulator :unsure: , is there a better way to play this sequel Deuteros ? like DosBox ?

ED?T: which atari emulator is the easiest to use and understand ?

The Fifth Horseman 01-03-2007 02:04 PM

Apparently, Deuteros has only been published for Amiga and Atari.
If your system can handle DosBox, there should be no problem for it to handle an Amiga or Atari emulator.

SteveGOLD 07-03-2007 08:02 PM

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Quote:

hmm i have just started the game and i have a question, do mutations cause any problems or dissabilitys? thanks
[/b]
No problem, only one plus - your colony will grow more then 100 people :ok:

Golan2072 12-03-2007 01:57 PM

My colonies have declared independence but I've won the game nevertheless - but is there any way to regain the colonies once they declare independence?

Guest 12-03-2007 02:11 PM

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My colonies have declared independence but I've won the game nevertheless - but is there any way to regain the colonies once they declare independence?
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It automatically happens as you near the end of the game. I think I tried back in the day to take them back just to draw the game out longer, but you couldn't. It's just a push to get you to finish it off.

But this game is one of the first computer games I've ever played in my childhood, on our x486. I've been gaming ever since, but this one holds a special place in my nostalgia.

**SPOILER - Highlight to see**
As a kid when I saw the message that there was still a fleet out there after taking out Mars, my face went white. I had stopped making any sort of defense systems by then! I was so freaked out I stopped playing for 2 weeks. I wound up being fine, I just shipped all my sats and fighters from my colonies back to HQ, circumventing the unit cap. They never got half way though my orbital sats. :P



InC 18-04-2007 10:32 PM


Em... how do I build a colony? I can't buy SIOS since I don't have either power or two critical resources for this and I cannot mine them on moon neither... so... how?

Guest_Tom_* 07-05-2007 08:38 PM

I can just agree to most of you .. this is truly a gem. I loved it back then and replayed it some years ago.


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Em... how do I build a colony? I can't buy SIOS since I don't have either power or two critical resources for this and I cannot mine them on moon neither... so... how?
[/b]
Don't know if it helps but i remember that a certain necessary material to kick of building some gadget was only to be found in the "asteroid belt". Fly there, leave your ship(s) in it and after some time you will get a message that they collected some :sneaky:

Elusive 18-05-2007 09:50 PM

I don't know if this is a silly queastion, but I have played the game from your excellent advices given (thanks alot) but one problem I encounter (it might be a computer/emulation problem). WHen I send fighters to defend the Martian attacks, and when it goes to the view inside the fighters, the battle happens too quick to make sense of... I can shoot but it's over within a couple of seconds and its either me (often me) or them destroyed by pure luck . Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Incappucciato d'Ombra 19-05-2007 01:28 AM

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(it might be a computer/emulation problem). [/b]
Yes, you are right. To avoid the problem you need to slow down CPU with an appropriate utility (like Mo'slo) or slow down CPU Cycles with CTRL+F11 if you use DOSBox .
Personally with my PC, that isn't exactly a "monster" (as you can see on my signature), i have had little problems, just pressed 2 time CTRL+F11. I have noticed that the mouse slowed down a bit but nothing special. if your system is much more better than mine, you need to experiment to found the best solution and eventually change even the mouse pointer setting, because it's possible that at the ideal speed when intercepting martian intruder will correspond a bad speed of the mouse pointer in the other part of the game. :tai:



The Fifth Horseman 23-05-2007 03:44 PM

The "Sensitivity" value in DosBox.conf can be increased, thus making the mouse cursor more responsive. It worked for me in X-Com Apocalypse.

Guest_Elusive_* 01-06-2007 11:19 PM

Thanks for your help, I have learned how to use dosbox and gonna try slowing it down next time I play it, thanks again, the help was appreciated :kosta:

Guest 06-07-2007 10:18 PM

Someone did a retro remake of Millenium within the past year for the PC. I don't have a link, but it definitely was much nicer looking.

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One of the BEST games ever made, deutros was far far better though... yet it never got released on the pc :\
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Rogerwilco 24-11-2008 04:10 AM

Hi.

Just wondering if anyone out there is currently playing, or thinking of playing this game . . ..

BTW, you don't need DosBox for this one...

dosraider 24-11-2008 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogerwilco (Post 342975)
BTW, you don't need DosBox for this one...

Depends of your PC/OS.
You may try to run it directly in XP64 or Vista, or Linux, whatever that doesn't like dosgames, good luck.
And even if some can run dosgames directly, if you have an onboard soundchip ...... nope.
:whistling:

Rogerwilco 24-11-2008 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dosraider (Post 342978)
Depends of your PC/OS.
You may try to run it directly in XP64 or Vista, or Linux, whatever that doesn't like dosgames, good luck.
And even if some can run dosgames directly, if you have an onboard soundchip ...... nope.
:whistling:

Ah, dosraider........ Good Morning, BTW...

you obviously haven't played the game.......

The sounds on the pc version are so lame, better without 'em...

The Atari's wasn't bad though.....

But I shoulda stated Wondoze XP Vista, have no idea.....

peace01 15-12-2008 09:27 AM

Beat this game yesterday
 
fairly anti-climatic win scene. First it says game over with game date and rating then moves to a static picture of sios in faded blue with brown wheat in the foreground. Rating was just below 75%. Still lost to the mars armada but i took over half of it out.

Kippesoep 11-02-2009 01:07 PM

Hehe. I just noticed the name of the game is misspelled "Millenium" (with 1 n) on the title screen and correctly spelled "Millennium" (with 2 n's) on the box. :doh:

Dweomer 05-03-2009 10:05 PM

http://glitch01.wordpress.com/2006/0...ake-completed/

here is the remake for Millennium, for anyone wanting to try it again in new 'clothes'

Opiegrey 03-04-2009 08:12 PM

Not sure if anyone is still reading any of these...but anyway:

How long does it usually take for the martian super-fleet to show up? I've probed every body in the galaxy (get your minds out of the gutter...) and colonized all of the possible planets/moons. Terraformer has been built for about 4 years. I've given up and simply parked all my ships at various colonies and just hit FF...up to 2017 now, and nothing seems to be happening. What else do I need to do?

TIA for any replies.

Unregistered asdf 08-06-2010 10:59 PM

size
 
lol the game is 343 kb (zipped) while the manual is 9 MB

shakads 19-07-2010 12:59 PM

It may be very repetitive and very scripted but, i absolutely LOVE this game ! I played it first on the Amiga 500 in the early 90s and became so addicted to it i still play it from time to time even today.

And then they released a sequel, which is even better. I remember the expectation of Deuteros, and when it came out, i bought it for the Amiga, and yes it was even more addictive than Millennium 2.2 !

Ian Bird, wherever you are now, thank you :D

Edit : Oh, and i loved the music on the Amiga, i think it was a symphony from Mahler iirc...

patuxai 02-05-2011 11:16 AM

Em... how do I build a colony? I can't buy SIOS since I don't have either power or two critical resources for this and I cannot mine them on moon neither... so... how?
[/b]

the answer therfore is simple. S.I.O.S. you can only build, if your base is equipped with the Mark X Power unit. No need to find something else. Of course, you will need the right amount of the therefore needed materials.

Marcel, the very, very old Gamer

Dewfire 04-05-2011 09:26 PM

This was a fun game, I wished it was a little randomized too. Once you've played it a couple times not much new to experience. Would be the perfect game if it did that, and you could queue up production!

Ripperian 18-10-2016 06:39 PM

Hi. I finished the game a few days ago.

I had defeated the Martians and I didn't expect the big fleet appears. But when I was reaching the end, terraforming earth or so, they show up and kill 600 colonist on moon and the solagen. Thanks to the notice of this thread I had an extra solagen in the bunker and with the scrap of a Carrack I could keep the base working. I had 64 fighters and 9 orbital lasers, but still it wasn't enough.

I didn't like so much that overwhelming attack in the end, but in overall it's a great game. Very good concept and fun managerial gameplay on an excelent setting.

I recommend it, despite the score it has on the site.

Saludos!


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