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proof 27-07-2006 10:48 AM

Crazy Drake [SOLD]
 
Help. Where can download the DOS game "Crazy Drake" ?


**Sodding huge hotlinked images removed ~arete**

The Fifth Horseman 27-07-2006 11:24 AM

<n00b-speak translator initialized>

Game not for DOS. Game for Windows. Made in 2001 and still sold. U can buy here:
http://www.atomicpark.com/xq/aspx/egames-c...ductdetail.html
http://www.spamresource.com/catalog/p200291.html
http://www.barterbee.com/xgames0000/...11685&_ty=exch
http://store.indiatimes.com/cdrom/PlanetMC...cdromid=cdr1958

No download 4 u, u must buy teh game.

DonCorleone 27-07-2006 04:45 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jul 27 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]245422[/snapback]</div>
Quote:

<n00b-speak translator initialized>

Game not for DOS. Game for Windows. Made in 2001 and still sold. U can buy here:
http://www.atomicpark.com/xq/aspx/egames-c...ductdetail.html
http://www.spamresource.com/catalog/p200291.html
http://www.barterbee.com/xgames0000/...11685&_ty=exch
http://store.indiatimes.com/cdrom/PlanetMC...cdromid=cdr1958

No download 4 u, u must buy teh game.
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:hysterical:
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guesst 27-07-2006 05:50 PM

:w00t: 5thHM, that is probably the funniest thing I've seen you say. Normally you're either matter of fact or bringing the hellfire. :titan:

I know you can't possible the that creative and funny with every noob, they're just too many. But this was so good that, just for you, I've broken my smiley rule
:kosta:

faralar 29-07-2006 01:03 PM

I think you guys should stop being so friggin' condesending to the noobs around here!

Everyone who visits abandonia loves it for its large collection of games and the freindliness of the site.

But most people who are actually in touch with the people who run the site think you are a bunch of jerks. Not everyone who is interested in finding old games knows the lingo, some jusyt want to find the games that they played when they were yong.

Besides, a lot of you guys wern't even around when these games came, maybe you should start showing a bit more respect.


Tom Henrik 29-07-2006 03:08 PM

I completely agree, Faralar.

I will talk to the moderators and crew about it, but unfortunately I can't do the same with regular members. Except hoping that they grow up, and start treating people with respect.

We were all newbies at one point.

Quintopotere 29-07-2006 03:16 PM

I agree totally with Tom...

but, hey, the Horseman post is actually funny! :bleh: ... :tomato:

@ proof: don't take him wrong... all in all is a good guy...

DonCorleone 29-07-2006 03:18 PM

What shall I say rather than that you're right? :tomato:

I don't think that it was meant that offending...after thinking about it I must admit that Proof might see this in a diffrent point of view. Therefor apollogies from me to you, Proof, and to the rest of the community of course...

EDIT: As Quintopotere stated: yes, I couldn't help of keeping myself laughing bout this funny post.

Maikel 29-07-2006 06:53 PM

newbie-bashing is a form of arrogance which I don't like. It scares away potentially great new members. Aside from that, it does not serve any purpose, aside from the satisfaction which the 'noob-basher' might experience.

VIP's, Mod's en admins need to set an example. Our action are under a microscope here.

guesst 29-07-2006 07:34 PM

Seriously, of all the newbe bashing, this was the most respectful. Consider the alterntives.

"Read the FAQ!"

"Why are you asking for a WINDOWS game on a DOS site? How'd you get screenshots and not know that?"

"Dude, no warez."

Considering these responces have found a home here for ages, and considering that 5thHM is the first on the scene when this sort of thing comes up, I think this was an incredibly well crafted responce.

If you want to complain about newb bashing, wait for a thread that deserves it.

If you're concerned that we're scaring away a petential long term abandonian, consider that if they'd lurked for just a little while before posting they'd have seen one of the above responces already. This is an account that would have only stuck around if we gave them what they wanted on a silver plater. Consider that we can't give them what they want, or for that mater don't have any silver platers, I don't think the tone of the responce is going to make that big a difference.

DonCorleone 29-07-2006 08:08 PM

I think it is the language 5thhm used and that we liked to laughed about which the critics refer to. They see it as a nasty allusion to the limited knowledge of language. But as I said before, I don't think that this answer was that evil and from behind. It was just a joke. And the new member did get his answer, didn't he?
Nevertheless, people around here didn't like our behaviour and didn't recognise this asa funny. That's it. I don't see any reason to argue about this incident...

EDIT: And oh... me thinks to set an example is somewhat silly in this case, because - as guesst described vividly - there are other bad answers around here that aren't nice at all. For example there isn't an answer at all sometimes. And ignoring might be seen worse than giving a shirty answer!

faralar 29-07-2006 08:43 PM

The point, which I said in my first post, is that a lot of people think that you guys are jerks when it comes to the forum replies. I'm not talking about just this time but you generally have a very harsh tone against "noobs".

Do you people not reliase that some people who are here don't give a crap about "the abandonware scene", this whole abandonware thing came about because people want to play and enjoy old classic games. Most who come here just want to find "that game", they don't know about the rules and stuff.

I'm not asking for a lot but this is a very respected and good site, it'd be a shame to throw that away just so some guy can feel good about himself because he knows more than someone else.

like I said, this i about many people and many occasions. I'm not pointing fingers.

And by the way, where does it say that abandonia only hosts DOS games?

Tom Henrik 29-07-2006 11:12 PM

It doesn't, and as such that is also wellfounded critic that we need to consider. The main focus of Abandonia has always been DOS games, but there is plenty of Windows games that have found their way onto the site. Somewhere along the line, this has made some people scream that the site only accepts DOS.

It isn't so. In fact, we have games that have both a DOS and a WIN version on the site, like Transport Tycoon for instance.

And, like you say, faralar, this has been an ongoing matter, with people showing a lot of contempt towards newbies. It wasn't like that before, and it shouldn't be like that now.

There is a huge difference between saying "I am sorry, but this game is currently protected by ESA, and as such it can't be hosted on this site." and saying "No warez!"

The first explains the issue in a nice way, and if the newbie continues his request after getting a no, then we might look into doing something stricter. The second message, however, isn't doing anything good. First of all it is assuming that the newbie knows what warez is in the first place. I didn't when I joined the forum. In fact, I think I was the biggest warez trader around at the time. If anyone requested a game, I dug up a download link. Second of all, it is flaming the guy for asking a question. Thirdly it isn't answering the question. And lastly it is probably not going to make that guy want to join the forum.

We can only take this justified criticism to heart, every single one of us. Seeing the same questions asked again and again is tiresome, and we all lash out at times, but it is important to apologize afterwards and treat the next newbie with respect after that.

Maikel 30-07-2006 09:43 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(guesst @ Jul 29 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]245778[/snapback]</div>
Quote:

Seriously, of all the newbe bashing, this was the most respectful. Consider the alterntives.

"Read the FAQ!"

"Why are you asking for a WINDOWS game on a DOS site? How'd you get screenshots and not know that?"

"Dude, no warez."

Considering these responces have found a home here for ages, and considering that 5thHM is the first on the scene when this sort of thing comes up, I think this was an incredibly well crafted responce.

If you want to complain about newb bashing, wait for a thread that deserves it.

If you're concerned that we're scaring away a petential long term abandonian, consider that if they'd lurked for just a little while before posting they'd have seen one of the above responces already. This is an account that would have only stuck around if we gave them what they wanted on a silver plater. Consider that we can't give them what they want, or for that mater don't have any silver platers, I don't think the tone of the responce is going to make that big a difference.
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I don't think we need to consider anything here. A basic form of politeness is all that's needed. Leetspeak and n00bbashing is not something we stand for. We don't need alternative noob-bashing replies. We need an alternative to noob-bashing. I don't care if people only come here to get what they want on a silver platter. We all came here with that goal in the first place. Some stay around, some don't :)

Eagle of Fire 01-08-2006 06:38 AM

Quote:

And by the way, where does it say that abandonia only hosts DOS games?[/b]
I don't know about you, but I see this on the main page (I reversed colors for clarity):

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8688/222kn5.jpg

Tom Henrik 01-08-2006 10:26 AM

It's dedicated to, not limited to - we do accept WIN games, we just try to focus mainly on DOS.

faralar 02-08-2006 02:24 PM

I think the game had a dos and a windows version, I know the demo was i dos

The Fifth Horseman 03-08-2006 11:00 AM

The supposed release date is 2001 - not likely it had a DOS version, really.

Quintopotere 03-08-2006 04:23 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Aug 3 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]246535[/snapback]</div>
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The supposed release date is 2001 - not likely it had a DOS version, really.
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Are you sure? That graphic doesn't seem from 2001... it's more like coming from 1995...

rabadi 04-08-2006 07:20 AM

Probably there was a DOS version. This link here mentions a game music ripped from a 1996 "Crazy Drake" game: http://www.mirsoft.info/gmb/music_in...d_ele=MTM4NTc=

This link here http://yippee.i4free.co.nz/html/win/entert...t/title5687.htm implies in its short review that there was a DOS version.

So, maybe there really was a DOS version of this game. Whether or not this game is ESA protected, however, is another matter.

The Fifth Horseman 04-08-2006 07:21 AM

That's according to the info I found.

Tom Henrik 04-08-2006 09:30 AM

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So, maybe there really was a DOS version of this game. Whether or not this game is ESA protected, however, is another matter.
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A matter that doesn't really matter as the game is still sold :bleh: ;)

rabadi 04-08-2006 01:04 PM

The DOS version of Crazy Drake is still sold? Then, it really is a matter that doesn't really matter :whistling:

Dave 02-08-2007 04:38 PM

Crazy Drake (2001) Published by Ionos & Developed by Neurotech
Rejected...still sold.

TotalAnarchy 04-12-2010 03:44 PM

[SOLD] at Zechsoft/Digital River, Digital River and other stores from Digital River. It is a downloadable purchase.

The Fifth Horseman 28-08-2011 10:30 PM

Zechsoft link valid. Digital River link invalid.

Expack2 06-12-2011 02:51 AM

Both links appear to be dead. Unless someone proves the Zechsoft link still works, then, barring someone finding a valid buylink, this game is approved.

The Fifth Horseman 06-12-2011 05:41 AM

The store restructured, it seems.
http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec...DE=&CACHE_ID=0

Expack2 06-12-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 437355)

In that case, Crazy Drake remains [SOLD].

Professor Oak 09-08-2012 08:06 PM

Broken Link Day.

Cluseck 10-08-2012 12:09 AM

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/crazy-drake

Sold on Amazon.com.

eXoDOS 12-12-2012 06:44 PM

If your going to start using Amazon as a basis for if a game is still sold or not, then pretty much every game on this website is still sold.

It is not being sold by the company who owns the rights on Amazon, it is being sold second hand through the marketplace, the same as if it was on eBay. I see no evidence that this game is still being sold *new* on any website.

Also, since I never saw it specific before. this game was released in 1996, not 2001. The original release was DOS only. Later, a discounted Pocket Price version was released for Windows 95.

Cluseck 14-12-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exoscoriae (Post 447789)
It is not being sold by the company who owns the rights on Amazon, it is being sold second hand through the marketplace, the same as if it was on eBay.

Most of the offers, yeah. But there are some that are labeled as 'fulfilled by Amazon', meaning they are shipped by Amazon itself. Therefore, the game is still rejected.


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