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ReamusLQ 16-03-2005 10:18 PM

just out of curiosity Timpsi, what questions did you ask exactly?

Timpsi 16-03-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by ReamusLQ@Mar 17 2005, 01:18 AM
just out of curiosity Timpsi, what questions did you ask exactly?
I sent two e-mails. In the first one I asked what the OEM marking at the Earthworm Jim page (here) exactly meant, as I've always thought such versions are only to be sold with hardware. I was answered that it had belonged to a bundle some time ago and had then been sold separately.

In my second mail I thanked for the reply and asked: "As far as I know, OEM software licenses prohibit resale without the original hardware. How come is it that CDAccess is selling OEM software? Also, since it has been a part of a bundle, doesn't it make it a second-hand copy?"

ReamusLQ 16-03-2005 10:31 PM

sounds like you pissed them off Timpsi :-p Maybe your use of logic made their head explode...or maybe you caught them doing very very bad things :sneaky:

TheSmyth 16-03-2005 11:10 PM

Some of these postings seem a bit hypocritical.


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RE: Retailers that count:

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"Generally only established merchants selling new copies of software are accepted"
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"So you are saying that i can buy a brand new game from a whole saler and sell it off brand new without the permission of, say, blizzard for example? "

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This is a common business practice. Nothing odd there. It's simply the way businesses operate.
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RE: Abandonwares Legal Staus

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....abandonware is illegal to begin with
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Followed BY:

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abandonware has no legal status
:not_ok:

RE: Grand Theft Auto

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The site is kind of a preservatory for titles that are impossible to acquire otherwise.
:ok:

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I suspect it's on the site because it's popular
:not_ok:

N.B. GTA is not Freeware the EULA prohibits re-ditribution. :whistle:

No offence Timpsi, but none of us are obviously involved in the decision making processes of Abandonia. My original posting was to try and find the reasoning behind the choice of games for the site.
Although I bow down to your superhero like powers of annoying CDAccess :kosta:

DeathDude 16-03-2005 11:24 PM

No kidding you certainly stroke a cord with someone at CDAccess, heh talk about professionalism.

heatho 17-03-2005 12:07 AM

And we have to trust these assholes not to suddenly find more stock of games we don't wanna have to sell our children to play.

Titan 17-03-2005 12:20 AM

Please refrain from flaming, or i'll have to boot up my "auto-flamer v 3.1".

heatho 17-03-2005 06:16 AM

Consider me refrained.

Timpsi 17-03-2005 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by TheSmyth@Mar 17 2005, 02:10 AM
Some of these postings seem a bit hypocritical.
RE: Retailers that count:
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"Generally only established merchants selling new copies of software are accepted"
:ok:
"So you are saying that i can buy a brand new game from a whole saler and sell it off brand new without the permission of, say, blizzard for example? "
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This is a common business practice. Nothing odd there. It's simply the way businesses operate.
:not_ok:

What's hypocritical here? In the first example I'm talking about the site policy, and in the second one we're talking about retail business operations. A completely different issue there.

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RE: Abandonwares Legal Staus
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....abandonware is illegal to begin with
:ok:
Followed BY:
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abandonware has no legal status
:not_ok:

In the second example my point was that there is no such concept as abandonware that you could find from a law book - the law that makes abandonware illegal is the copyright law. The guy was wondering why companies don't say if the games they sell are abandonware or not.


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RE: Grand Theft Auto
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The site is kind of a preservatory for titles that are impossible to acquire otherwise.
:ok:
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I suspect it's on the site because it's popular
:not_ok:

Well, this one I agree with, as the game is still easily available. But if it has to be on the site, why not link directly to the Rockstar download page (and save some bandwith while doing so), now that it can be done?

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N.B. GTA is not Freeware the EULA prohibits re-ditribution. :whistle:
This was indeed the case in the beginning, but later on Rockstar removed the section that prohibited redistributing. However, what you say is true with Wild Metal Country and GTA2.

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No offence Timpsi, but none of us are obviously involved in the decision making processes of Abandonia. My original posting was to try and find the reasoning behind the choice of games for the site.
Well, this is true. However, the admins seem to steer away from this topic for some reason. I hope I've been able to clarify the issue.

TheSmyth 17-03-2005 06:48 AM

I don't really feel the issue is going to be resolved, but thanks for trying Timpsi. :ok:


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