:help: I'm definitively stuck, finished giving the guardian the potion, and WANT to change my pipe back to copperball used the ring, but NOTHING happens tried it for an hour now, anyone has a solution for that?

Stupid question: How do I get Urm to the living room once he's had the jam?

You get the bat to come by blowing the whistle and then feeding him fruit or jam. When you've fed him, he'll do you a favour. Also I remember that even though most of the time he won't help if you have no fruit, on one occasion he gives you a freebie. So go into the living room and blow the whistle then see what happens.

It's been a while since I played the game, but that object changes to many things, depending on what you combine it with. There are several steps before it becomes a completely different object.

Nevermind, figured it out. You call Urm initially by using the flute on the area of the porch where the railing was. The 'use flute on Weem' thing didn't occur to me for a while.

As for the copper ball, the tiara is the trigger for the pipe. The ring only works on the cauldron.

I beg to differ. Actually Myst is the only game I ever finished without a walkthrough. The puzzles aren't exactly logical in a realistic sense, but you can solve them all by thinking "It must be possible to solve this puzzle, so the object next to it must have something to do with it"

Ween, is the best example I have ever seen of FORCING the player to try every object on every object. *SPOILER ALERT* Put the feather in the empty chest and then it turns out to be a magic feather that shows the contents of the chest? :crazy: No mention was made that the feather was magic, no mention was made the chest had something strange about, apart from being empty. It might has well been a "magic" fork you'de have to use on the chest.

Use the ball with the ring and you get a cauldron? What is that about? Please, this is an insult to serious adventuring. And calling a bat and giving him strawberries all the time? What was the programmer on when he wrote this?

The only reason this game can be solved easliy is because there is a limited number of rooms you can visit before continuing. With a limited number of objects, so it is in fact possible to use every object on every object until you accidentally stumble across the right one. This is *always* the sure sign a game is fundamentally flawed. The perfect adventure game is one where you are able to look at the locations and the objects you have and then turn of the computer and think of the obvious solution when you are in your bed.

check out the band: WEEN!!! they are the best!!!!!

I love this game. Ween. I bought it for a long time. But i didnt find it. Can somebody send me ween per E-mail ?

ti-soft@web.de

No, that is illegal you know.

But where can i buy it?