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marko river 16-10-2016 07:50 PM

Win 3.11 is not a problem. We don't host only the games that work out of the box. For old win games, user is required to run win 3.11 somehow, we can only provide instructions like you used yourself, so I guess it is OK.

You got English version? Nice :) Test it, and you can also upload it so Spectre can check it too. We will also offer German version as extra.

I see that user Jokerderio offered review already in that other thread. WE definitely need more screenshots. Do you agree with his review more or less?

Smiling Spectre 17-10-2016 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spamalot (Post 466326)
the program i used (CDburnerXP) proposed mdf/mds files which can contain more than 1 track. so i did that and made a 1:1 copy (=> 661MB). when mounting those files (with winCDemu 4.1 since virtual clonedrive can't mount mdf/mds) i don't see the audio-tracks with windows media player (win10 x64) so i guess the audio tracks are not ripped correctly.

Actually, MDF/MDS is most advanced copy method, so they _must_ be copied. My (German) image is made by Nero Burning Rom though, in NRG format, that can contain extra audio tracks too. Question! Can you see audio with the WMP when _original_ disk inserted?

Also, for the most straightforward procedure, I recommend Daemon Tools Lite. It can make MDF/MDS files, and can mount images seamlessly.
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the already known "insert cd" msg pops up every few seconds until i deactivated "music" in the upper windows-options. the SFX is played fine but the game is without music.
Strange. So audio part seems missing really, at least for the game... Again - maybe it's the fault of winCDemu 4.1? Try DT Lite, please?

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edit: got a package now with 104MB. it contains win3.11 and WV2. found the english text in the folders and it seems the whole game is in english! yay!
"My" image (already on site) have .eng files, but game doesn't recognize it, so I propose to rename .eng to .ger. Is your game the same?

zirkoni 17-10-2016 01:57 PM

IIRC, WinCDEmu does not support mixed mode CDs. So, if you use it to mount a mixed mode CD image you will only see the data track. Not 100% sure though.

marko river 18-10-2016 08:15 PM

OK guys, I'm counting on you here: I want to upload this game with all this attention it gets now, so please prepare these archives. We can have both German and English versions online as far as I'm concerned. If renaming the files is the way to run it in English, then feel free to do it and we will offer both archives separately although it is a small difference. Running it from Win 3.11 is enough bother for visitors IMO.

You can also prepare smaller and bigger versions if it makes sense, so if full with audio tracks is 600MB, we'll add it in ISO Cellar and link from review page, while offering data package on review page. I am fine with either solution.

We have review, we need few more screenshots, you can change review if you want, it's all OK. As for credits, we can split among who provided which archive and review and so on. I'm not sure what we have on FTP already, any manual and box or any other scan is welcome too.

Spectre, just let me know what is what when you have everything ready to go. Oh, and one square pic for news please :)

spamalot 19-10-2016 09:35 PM

phew, tinkered the whole evening but i got a lot done...
- Whale's Voyage II - EN.zip (53MB)
- Whale's Voyage II - EN - FULLMEDIA.zip (270MB)
- Whale's Voyage II - DE.zip (53MB)
- Whale's Voyage II - DE - FULLMEDIA.zip (270MB)

Those packets include:
- LIESMICH.odt / README.odt
(i wrote a little instruction in german / english)
- WHALE'S VOYAGE II MANUAL.odt / WHALE'S VOYAGE II MANUAL EN.odt
(the original german manual and a translation (google translator))
- Whale's Voyage II.bat
(file to start with d-fend)

-> it will start windows 3.11 and WV2 is in autostart.
-> it's not fullscreen inside windows
-> no ingame music
-> you have to quit the game and then windows 3.11

The "FULLMEDIA" packets additionally include a Folder "MEDIA" with:
- Whales Voyage 2 OST (15 MP3s @ 320kbps)
- Improved Intro.mp4 (113MB)
- Original Intro.AVI (18MB)

Also got additional 37 screenshots:
- WV2 screenshots.zip (7MB)

-> Would upload, please tell me where
-> Would read the review, please tell me where it is
-> any ideas how to improve (start game in fullscreen inside win3.11 or quit win3.11 when game quits) (music won't work since it wants the audio cd tracks... or can that be faked somehow with the mp3-files?)

marko river 21-10-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by spamalot (Post 466355)
- Whale's Voyage II.bat (file to start with d-fend)
-> it will start windows 3.11 and WV2 is in autostart.

Wait... does this means you included win 3.11 in the zip? If yes, then that's not good, even though it would be simpler for visitors.

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Originally Posted by spamalot (Post 466355)
-> Would read the review, please tell me where it is

It is in the other thread about this game.... here.

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Originally Posted by spamalot (Post 466355)
-> any ideas how to improve (start game in fullscreen inside win3.11 or quit win3.11 when game quits) (music won't work since it wants the audio cd tracks... or can that be faked somehow with the mp3-files?)

Hopefully our guru master Spectre may be of some assistance :)

Smiling Spectre 21-10-2016 02:07 PM

You are slightly over-estimating me, marko river. :) I have no idea how to exit Win 3.1 with command prompt... if it's possible at all. I usually use "File-Exit Windows" menu. :)

Speaking about fullscreen - isn't it starts as is by default? I.e., you need to set _DOSBox_ to the fullscreen, but otherwise you must be fine, no? (I don't remember, and have time right now to test).

Also, I have no idea where is my version _now_, but I uploaded full german version (with soundtracks) when I had it, in the .nrg format, so it must be there, somewhere in the Abandonia admin files. :)
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Originally Posted by spamalot (Post 466355)
phew, tinkered the whole evening but i got a lot done...
...
-> any ideas how to improve (start game in fullscreen inside win3.11 or quit win3.11 when game quits) (music won't work since it wants the audio cd tracks... or can that be faked somehow with the mp3-files?)

If you _really_ insist, it can be faked. One of CD-format includes CUE/BIN pair, where BIN is binary file in recognizable format (ISO will work), and CUE is the list of all tracks - binary or sound - and tracks can be in the any format, including MP3. But I hate this sort of setup, and always prefer single BIN/NRG/MDF over it. So I again insist for you to try Daemon Tools Lite for burning and mounting, and check if anything changed about music. :)

spamalot 21-10-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by marko river (Post 466364)
Wait... does this means you included win 3.11 in the zip? If yes, then that's not good, even though it would be simpler for visitors.

It is in the other thread about this game.... here.

Hopefully our guru master Spectre may be of some assistance :)

uh, yes i included all stuff in one package, ready to extract, import to d-fend and run...

is that not good? how do you want the files then? a plain copy of the cd as image? can do that in no time. but everyone has to tinker around to switch to english and get it to run in windows without errors...

i don't really know how things work here. just a user/fan/some years contributor of abandonia. so please tell me exactly what you need and what i have to do. ;)

arete 21-10-2016 04:56 PM

It's so lovely that with a little bit of voodoo and tech knowhow, old games can be brought back to life :)

Smiling Spectre 22-10-2016 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spamalot (Post 466373)

Umm... Did you hear anything I said, spamalot? :(

ISO is no good. It haven't audio-tracks, obviously, at all. Almost any OTHER format will do. And I, personally, recommend MDS/MDF.


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