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We use primarily ZIP format for compatibility reasons. RAR may be used for larger games, but only if absolutely neccesary.

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Originally Posted by Adamg (Post 318209)

For maximum compression you need 2GB of RAM though, but the results are usually very impressive. The compression times are longer, of course, but that's not really a big deal.

I have Two PC's
One Laptop and a Desktop.

The Laptop has 1,46GHz and JUST 512MB of RAM.
My Desktop is Just a P3 with 550MHz and a mere 320MB of RAM!

And you want WHAT!!
Longer compression times are equal to longer DEcompression times.

I would highly suggest Abandonia keeps to either .zip (compatibility) or uses .rar (very known archive type).

And Nothing else! :mad:

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Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s. (Post 318223)

what's the point? it's not that we hosted 2 GB images or something

True for now but the size of abandoned games will rapidly increase and changing to a better compression format(not necessarily 7zip) sooner rather than later mite be a good idea.:idea:

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Originally Posted by GTX2GvO (Post 318253)

Longer compression times are equal to longer DEcompression times.

This is better than longer download times.

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Originally Posted by Eagle of Fire (Post 318224)

The whole point here is: Even if we were to offer two downloads, one with .zip and another for 7zip... There would be a lot of computer knowledgable people who will be pleased to download the 7zip version. But 90%+ of the downloads, those made by people who don't know better, won't even bother to try to discover what 7zip is and will download the .zip version anyways.

For a trial period the selected games should only be in the 7zip format and the right utilities will be available on the site, this will force people to use the 7zip format and if we get to many questions and to many people have trouble with it then the 7zip files will be removed and the zip files put in there place.

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Originally Posted by Doink (Post 318316)

... this will force people to use the 7zip format ...

Djees man, you're worst than MS + Mac + Sony together.
*Force* people .... :mad:
It's not because YOU like an application you're suddenly entitled to force it upon others.

Even if I also have 7Zip -(yes, indeed)- I wouldn't dream to shovel it down in other peeps troaths.

Talk about it, propose it, advise it, yes, but force ? No way josé.

What's next? 8Zippy that's again a bit (0.05%) better?
9Zippy? (0.02%) better?

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Originally Posted by bob-satan (Post 318216)

Is there a program to work with 7zip archives that works under DOS ??

I think RAR supports 7zip and it has a DOS version.

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Originally Posted by Doink http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/ima...s/viewpost.gif
... this will force people to use the 7zip format ...

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Originally Posted by dosraider (Post 318328)

Apologies
...this will encourage people to use the 7zip format...

Edit: 7zip claim to have a 50% to 60% better compression ratio than traditional zip so its a major step.

yes MS + Mac + Sony are encouraging people to upgrade :P

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Originally Posted by Doink (Post 318341)

Edit: 7zip appears to have a 50% to 60% better compression ratio than traditional zip so its a major step.

[* Irritant little voice *]

UHarc compresses better and faster than 7Zip, that's why many pirated games are spread around in this format, -(it even compresses mp3 files!)-, so why stick with 7Zip? Let us push UHarc down their troats.

[/* Irritant little voice *]

And what will happen when this whole 7Zip project will be terminated, abandoned, whatever?
Will you recompress all the archives on AB to yet another 'better_than_zip_or_rar' archiver?

i'd still like to point out that most of our abandonned games are about 10 MB in size. maybe if we realy hosted the huge images in future

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Originally Posted by Doink (Post 318316)

...and changing to a better compression format(not necessarily 7zip)...

that is why a trial should be conducted to determine the best replacement for .zip

but anyways this seems to be going nowhere. Personally i've never even used 7zip, I Just joined in the conversation to propose a method of testing it or any compression format on this site and suggest it may be a good idea to change. Abandoned games will be getting much larger so I thought it would be a good idea to get a headstart.

Next topic please:)